[Pilot Chat] Best Ideas from KM World
Chat Event:
Date & time:
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 - 16:00 - 17:00 UTC
Transcript:
| 4:01 pm | swanwick: | {moderator} Welcome to the very first #KMers chat! Thx for being a part of what we hope will be a very helpful resource. |
| 4:01 pm | WeKnowMore: | Please use http://www.kmers.org/chat to join in on the #Kmers chat! #KM | Twitter chats for Knowledge Professionals |
| 4:01 pm | lehawes: | Attending the inaugural #KMers chat. #KMers |
| 4:02 pm | swanwick: | {moderator} Pls introduce urself, tell us whether u were at #KMW09, and how much experience you have with Twitter Chats #KMers |
| 4:02 pm | swanwick: | I am Robert Swanwick from DC. I was at KMWorld and I am the curator of the Twitter Chat Sched: http://bit.ly/oXBBu #KMers |
| 4:02 pm | JoeRaimondo: | Attending the inaugural #KMers chat. |
| 4:03 pm | swanwick: | @lehawes Larry, great to see you. Glad you could join us. I used to work with Larry at IBM #KMers |
| 4:03 pm | elsua: | ? @lehawes: Attending the inaugural #KMers chat < Me, too! :-D #KMers |
| 4:03 pm | forgingthefutur: | @swanwick PIs? #KMers |
| 4:03 pm | lehawes: | Larry Hawes tuning in from greater Boston area. Didn't attend KMWorld. Have used EventVue chat at conferences. #KMers |
| 4:04 pm | mdieterle: | @swanwick Haven't been at #KMW09 this time, but that's why I am here :) Looking forward to some great feedback #KMers |
| 4:04 pm | lehawes: | Good to be here, Swan. Thanks for hosting! #KMers |
| 4:04 pm | WeKnowMore: | I am the director of weknowmore.org and COO of KMers.org San jose was a bit for for me, But I'd love to hear what happend over there! #KMers |
| 4:04 pm | swanwick: | @forgingthefutur pls = short for "please" Sorry Twitter speak #KMers |
| 4:04 pm | stangarfield: | @swanwick I am Stan Garfield from Detroit. I was at #kmw09 and this is my first Twitter chat #KMers |
| 4:05 pm | markgould13: | Never used Twitter Chats before, and wasn't at KM World, so I'll probably observe this one! #KMers |
| 4:06 pm | elsua: | Hi everyone! Luis Suarez here; KMer, CommunityBuilder & Social Computing Evangelist @ IBM; didn't make it to #KMW09 :-(( Listening... #KMers |
| 4:06 pm | elmi: | Me too. @markgould13: Never used Twitter Chats before, and wasn't at KM World, so I'll probably observe this one! #KMers |
| 4:07 pm | swanwick: | {moderator} OK, I posted a rough agenda on the Chat event item . Moving on to a 5 min discussion about the http://KMers.org site #KMers |
| 4:07 pm | md_santo: | Md Santo The creator of SNS Mobee Knowledge CoP It's my first Twitter chat #KMers |
| 4:07 pm | mneff: | Mark Neff here from Evans, GA. I was not at KM World but wish I were. Not too familiar with twitchats. #KMers |
| 4:07 pm | mdieterle: | I am from Philly also and have recently attended the twebevent from #KMI #KMers |
| 4:07 pm | swanwick: | Any feedback about the site? Easy to use? Confusing? Good start? #KMers |
| 4:07 pm | forgingthefutur: | I'm Peter Andrews Was at #KMW09 Presented on Open Innov and my book Innov Passport and this is my first Twitter Chat #KMers |
| 4:08 pm | markgould13: | Forgot to say: Mark Gould, in Manchester (UK not NH). Focusing on KM for lawyers... #KMers |
| 4:09 pm | VMaryAbraham: | The site looks good. It's nice to be able to see who the new members are. #kmers |
| 4:09 pm | swanwick: | Thx to Twitter Chat newbies. Realize this takes some getting used to, but you may find that it is the best reason to use Twitter #KMers |
| 4:09 pm | AndreaMeyer: | #kmers Hi everyone, I'm Andrea Meyer from Working Knowledge in Boulder - looking forward to hearing #km09 insights |
| 4:09 pm | forgingthefutur: | @stangarfield Stan, you were one of the highlights of #KMW09. Hope you point people toward your blog #KMers |
| 4:09 pm | lehawes: | @swanwick Site seems intuitive enough to me. Archiving of chats will be a big value add. #KMers |
| 4:10 pm | AndreaMeyer: | @forgingthefutur welcome! I'll be at Open Innovation Summit next week #OIS09 #kmers |
| 4:10 pm | rickladd: | Rick Ladd here. Nominal aerospace geek and recent recipient of a Masters in KM from CSUN (Whoopee!) How'd I miss this? #KMers |
| 4:10 pm | AndreaMeyer: | @swanwick agree, chats are very engaging! #kmers |
| 4:10 pm | elsua: | @swanwick Rob, thinking the Members section could well make use of a Twitter list to help folks follow KM folks outside the events #KMers |
| 4:10 pm | swanwick: | @lehawes Yes, our goal will also be to create a little "knowledge storm" around each week's chat. With ppl blogging on same topic #KMers |
| 4:10 pm | mdieterle: | The site is fairly straight forward. It was a bit confusing to log in twice, once to the site and then to the event. #KMers |
| 4:11 pm | swanwick: | @elsua Gr8 point. We will add that to our list of feature ideas. #KMers |
| 4:12 pm | swanwick: | @mdieterle I understand. The chat interface is an embed of another product and we have not worked out single sign-on yet. #KMers |
| 4:12 pm | forgingthefutur: | @AndreaMeyer I won't be at the summit, unfortunately #KMers |
| 4:12 pm | JoeRaimondo: | Joe Raimondo here from the KM group of Philadelphia. We're planning to hold a Twitter chat for our next meeting, so this is a test. #kmers |
| 4:12 pm | lehawes: | @mdieterle Agree re: double login. #KMers |
| 4:12 pm | AndreaMeyer: | @swanwick had a strange quirk on the site: said it posted a question which I did not post, but otherwise I like it #kmers |
| 4:12 pm | swanwick: | {moderator} OK, moving on. For those that attended, what were your goals of going to #KMW09? #KMers |
| 4:13 pm | forgingthefutur: | @swanwick Maybe create an FAQ for newbies? #KMers |
| 4:14 pm | swanwick: | @AndreaMeyer Yes, I saw. I believe Johan is working on why that happened. Sorry about that. #KMers |
| 4:14 pm | VMaryAbraham: | And, for those of us who didn't attend, which blogger(s) has shared the best set of conference notes? #kmers |
| 4:14 pm | mneff: | @JoeRaimondo Share you connection details and we can join in with your group as well. #KMers |
| 4:14 pm | forgingthefutur: | found discussion of Personal KM fascinating at #KMW09. "Narrate your life" #KMers |
| 4:14 pm | swanwick: | @forgingthefutur Good point. Will work on that. #KMers |
| 4:14 pm | AndreaMeyer: | @swanwick no worries! #kmers |
| 4:15 pm | stangarfield: | My goals for #KMW09 were to present 13 #KM insights, be on a panel on #PKM, learn from the presentations, and interact with fellow #KMers |
| 4:15 pm | swanwick: | I attended #KMW09 for a bunch of reasons. 1) I was lucky enough to get given a pass 2) to network 3) to launch KMers.org #KMers |
| 4:15 pm | elsua: | @VMaryAbraham Without any doubt, @billives, Mary! He is a blogging machine! Lots of great insights & worth while subscribing blog! #KMers |
| 4:15 pm | VMaryAbraham: | @forgingthefutur Can you tell us about any key learnings from the personal #KM session? #PKM #kmers |
| 4:16 pm | JoeRaimondo: | We will be on from 11 to noon on Wednesday December 9th on #KMGPhila #kmers |
| 4:16 pm | elsua: | @VMaryAbraham One of my favourite related posts from the event was that one from @ericmack: http://is.gd/52JCk Stunning! #KMers |
| 4:16 pm | mneff: | I did not attend but if I had attended, my goals would be to find out what was new and exciting. Value. Connect with others. #KMers |
| 4:16 pm | swanwick: | @elsua I talked to @BillIves about KMers and he indicated he was worried about too much tweet volume in his stream. #KMers |
| 4:17 pm | forgingthefutur: | @elsua @billives is very generous f2f, too. share lots of insights #KMers |
| 4:17 pm | elsua: | @forgingthefutur RE: Narrating your life, as in Declarative Living & Ambient Intimacy from @monkchips & @leisa,as well as @davewiner? #KMers |
| 4:17 pm | swanwick: | @elsua Excellent, we will make sure we collect all the links that are shared on the chat today. #KMers |
| 4:18 pm | stangarfield: | Is there a way to post a tweet from TweetChat without having to switch over to Twitter, and to prepopulate the text box with the tag? #KMers |
| 4:18 pm | swanwick: | {moderator} So, for those who went, which was your favorite session and why? #KMers |
| 4:18 pm | mdieterle: | In previous years, the notion of "the end of KM" was discussed. What was the tone this time at #KMW09? #KMers |
| 4:18 pm | elsua: | @swanwick I know! But it just lasts for one hour, so it should be doable, right? KMers unite! :-P #KMers |
| 4:18 pm | VMaryAbraham: | @elsua @forgingthefutur Narrating your life? Not navigating your life or Archiving your life? #kmers |
| 4:19 pm | forgingthefutur: | @elsua I'll have to get back to you on that, Luis. Hard to keep up with the chat and the refs, too! #KMers |
| 4:19 pm | lehawes: | @swanwick Both @elsua and I have a 2nd Twitter account from which we live blog at events, for that very reason. Almost used for this. #KMers |
| 4:19 pm | elsua: | RT @forgingthefutur: @elsua @billives is very generous f2f, too. share lots of insights < I know! I witnessed it at #e2conf, too! #KMers |
| 4:19 pm | SethHorwitz: | @stangarfield try using tweetchat.com to prepopulate the tweet with the hashtag #kmers |
| 4:19 pm | swanwick: | @stangarfield Yes, if you are logged in, it will post to Twitter and add the hashtag for you. Should not need to go to Twitter.com #KMers |
| 4:19 pm | AndreaMeyer: | RT @mdieterle: In previous years, the notion of "the end of KM" was discussed. What was the tone this time at #KMW09? #kmers |
| 4:19 pm | VMaryAbraham: | @stangarfield Stan, log into Tweetchat.com and put "KMers" in the hashtag box. That will simplify things for you and it autotags! #kmers |
| 4:19 pm | rickladd: | @elsua @VMaryAbraham - I agree with Luis that Eric shared some really good stuff. I shared it with my colleagues on an internal blog. #kmers |
| 4:20 pm | mneff: | @stangarfield Use this link - > http://www.kmers.org/chat #KMers |
| 4:20 pm | AndreaMeyer: | @stangarfield yes, right in the message box at the top of tweetchat, you'll get automatic tag #kmers |
| 4:20 pm | elsua: | @VMaryAbraham RE: Stan's session, I hope so, too! Would be interesting to see how he came about putting it together & its delivery #KMers |
| 4:20 pm | swanwick: | I especially liked the 2nd half of @vanderwal session http://bit.ly/7G4XVo #KMers |
| 4:21 pm | VMaryAbraham: | @rickladd I'd love to get more info on the #PKM session. In many ways, personal KM is the best path forward for #KM. #kmers |
| 4:21 pm | mneff: | @rickladd What were some of the key points from that blog or other place that you can share here? PKM is a big topic. #KMers |
| 4:21 pm | elsua: | @BonnieKoenig You are welcome! ;-) heh #KMers |
| 4:21 pm | lehawes: | For those who attended the PKM session at KMWorld, what was your biggest take-away? #KMers |
| 4:22 pm | swanwick: | @AndreaMeyer Gr8 question. I felt the tone was more hopeful about #e20 being the merger of #KM and #SM #KMers |
| 4:22 pm | markgould13: | RT @VMaryAbraham: @rickladd Id love to get more info on the #PKM session. In many ways, personal KM is the best path forward for KM. #KMers |
| 4:22 pm | forgingthefutur: | @VMaryAbraham My takeaways from that were probably eccentric. One thing is don't polish too much #KMers |
| 4:22 pm | stangarfield: | The text box at the top of the page does not appear in IE - I switched to Chrome and the box now appears #KMers |
| 4:22 pm | elsua: | @VMaryAbraham @forgingthefutur RE: Narrating your life? < I think it was probably more along the lines of "Narrate your work" :) #KMers |
| 4:22 pm | swanwick: | @vanderwal talked about how projects need to be run differently in the age of social and agile. #KMers |
| 4:23 pm | rickladd: | @mneff @VMaryAbraham - Having trouble figuring out how best to participate. Are you using KMers.org to post or your twitter app? #kmers |
| 4:23 pm | mdieterle: | @lehawes This is a great idea. You collect a lot of detailed tweets not relevant to anyone outside of a particular conversation #KMers |
| 4:23 pm | mneff: | @markgould13 Tools? Techniques? Tips? What seems to be working for you? Suggestions on getting started? How best to manage your own? #KMers |
| 4:23 pm | rickladd: | @mneff Do you have the link to Eric's blog post? #kmers |
| 4:23 pm | stangarfield: | @VMaryAbraham I will be glad to, Mary! #KMers |
| 4:23 pm | swanwick: | @stangarfield Thx for that bug. I will let the founder of @tweetchat know it happend. #KMers |
| 4:24 pm | elsua: | @lehawes RE: 2nd Twitter accounts... good point! Forgot about it completely! Guess I'll sign in with it next time around :) #KMers |
| 4:24 pm | forgingthefutur: | @elsua No Really Narrate your life. Because you can't guess what people will find of value Like how to run rummage sales #KMers |
| 4:24 pm | mneff: | Using KMers.org. Is doing instant updates and adds the hashtag for me. #KMers |
| 4:25 pm | forgingthefutur: | @VMaryAbraham Too much polishing makes it hard for people to grab on (and also discourages quantity) #KMers |
| 4:25 pm | elsua: | ? @AndreaMeyer: ? @mdieterle: In previous years, the notion of "the end of KM" was discussed. What was the tone this time at #KMW09? #KMers |
| 4:25 pm | VMaryAbraham: | @stangarfield Thanks a million, Stan. You've got a goldmine to share! #kmers |
| 4:25 pm | swanwick: | @AndreaMeyer Thx. I guess you agree 2nd half was better. :) #KMers |
| 4:25 pm | mneff: | @rickladd I don't have it. Just throwing out some stuff that might have been covered at the event. #KMers |
| 4:26 pm | elsua: | ? @swanwick: I especially liked the 2nd half of @vanderwal session http://bit.ly/7G4XVo < Me, too, even though I wasn't there! :-P #KMers |
| 4:26 pm | lehawes: | @forgingthefutur Right. Twitter seems to be a great tool for narrating life. You never know who will value what you say or why. #KMers |
| 4:26 pm | mneff: | @forgingthefutur Also shows that you are willing to show a little of yourself instead of a highly polished market sheen. #KMers |
| 4:27 pm | VMaryAbraham: | @rickladd Rick, check this tweetstream. @elsua sent the link to me earlier in this chat. #kmers |
| 4:27 pm | forgingthefutur: | @swanwick I presented on Tues, so naturally I liked the earlier stuff #KMers |
| 4:27 pm | rickladd: | @mneff Here 'tis - http://bit.ly/79AIHo #kmers |
| 4:27 pm | VMaryAbraham: | @elsua What was the focus of @vanderwal's talk? #kmers |
| 4:27 pm | elsua: | @VMaryAbraham I know, Mary! I think we eventually may have a bunch of future TweetChats events right there!! :-D #KMers |
| 4:27 pm | forgingthefutur: | @mneff Right. Not being polished takes an interesting combo of humility and confidence #KMers |
| 4:28 pm | swanwick: | {moderator} What were your key takeaways from the conference? (for those who were there) #KMers |
| 4:28 pm | forgingthefutur: | @lehawes Still learning on the Twitter narration, I'm afraid #KMers |
| 4:28 pm | rickladd: | @VMaryAbraham Eric is a former classmate of mine. Just sent him an invite to Wave. Perhaps we can arrange a convo - wave or tele? #kmers |
| 4:28 pm | klowey22: | hi everybody, just getting into kmers chat! #kmers |
| 4:28 pm | AndreaMeyer: | @swanwick :-) yes - actually could've just done math on that one! #kmers |
| 4:29 pm | swanwick: | BTW: if you have a suggestion for a #KMers chat topic you can create a "Chat Suggestion" on the site. #KMers |
| 4:29 pm | VMaryAbraham: | @lehawes @forgingthefutur But does "narrating one's life" lead to inane update tweets? Don't convos reveal more about yr knowledge? #kmers |
| 4:29 pm | AndreaMeyer: | RT Q1 @swanwick: {moderator} What were your key takeaways from #KM09 conference? (for those who were there) #kmers |
| 4:29 pm | rickladd: | @VMaryAbraham What tweetstream? You mean with the hastag #kmers? |
| 4:29 pm | mneff: | @rickladd Wonderful. Vintage Stan. Thanks. Agree. Each topic could be its own chat. #KMers |
| 4:29 pm | elsua: | ? @rickladd: @mneff Do you have the link to Erics blog post? < Go here: http://is.gd/52JCk #KMers |
| 4:30 pm | AndreaMeyer: | @klowey22 welcome! we're talking about key takeaways from #KM09 #kmers |
| 4:30 pm | swanwick: | @klowey22 Good to have you on John. Fast and furious chat today. Lots of ppl who didn't go, looking to learn from us attendees. #KMers |
| 4:30 pm | forgingthefutur: | @VMaryAbraham I could see how narrating your live could lead to too much noise, but maybe loosening up a bit is good #KMers |
| 4:30 pm | swanwick: | Takeaway: I was impressed that #SM and #KM seemed to be starting to get along. Many sessions were #SM related #KMers |
| 4:30 pm | mneff: | @VMaryAbraham Agree. Especially if the conversation is around a specific topic. That tends to draw out useful information. #KMers |
| 4:30 pm | lehawes: | @VMaryAbraham Even an inane tweet can spark a conversation. Perhaps not a valuable one, but... :>) #KMers |
| 4:31 pm | VMaryAbraham: | @rickladd You can follow hashtag, or you can log into tweetchat.com #kmers |
| 4:31 pm | elsua: | @VMaryAbraham Essentially, how it is time to get down to business and forget the 2.0 talk; very pragmatic & sound advice, imo #KMers |
| 4:31 pm | AndreaMeyer: | @sourcepov hi chris! #kmers |
| 4:31 pm | elsua: | ? @klowey22: hi everybody, just getting into kmers chat! < Hiya! Welcome, my friend! :) #KMers |
| 4:32 pm | forgingthefutur: | @VMaryAbraham When I wrote exec speeches, too polished meant no questions -- usually bad. This feels similar #KMers |
| 4:32 pm | stangarfield: | @VMaryAbraham VanderWal: understanding folksonomy, web 2.0 vs. E2.0, elements of social software - it was packed with ideas. #KMers |
| 4:32 pm | swanwick: | Takeaway: #SM and #KM seem to be moving closer together in support of #e20. KM slow to come around, but getting there. #KMers |
| 4:32 pm | elsua: | RT @mneff: @rickladd Wonderful. Vintage Stan. Thanks. Agree. Each topic could be its own chat < Think we're covered 4 next few weeks! #KMers |
| 4:32 pm | VMaryAbraham: | Fancy meeting you here! RT @AndreaMeyer: @sourcepov hi chris! #kmers |
| 4:33 pm | AndreaMeyer: | 13 #KM insights from @stangarfield @ #KM09 blog by Eric Mack http://is.gd/52JCk #kmers |
| 4:33 pm | forgingthefutur: | @AndreaMeyer Getting down to business was a real theme. Still a high % of technical knowledge though #KMers |
| 4:33 pm | mneff: | More action, less talk. How to take risks that are reasonable? What risk is worth taking? What others are doing? More interaction. #KMers |
| 4:33 pm | sourcepov: | @swanwick @andreameyer @vmaryabraham Hey guys .. Rob thanks for organizing this; Andrea, Mary .. great to see u (sitting in back row) #kmers |
| 4:33 pm | forgingthefutur: | @BonnieKoenig Well, I think good blogs ARE conversations and revealing and personal. #KMers |
| 4:34 pm | mdieterle: | A nice follow up to this general view on #KMW09 could be a more in-depth review of a specific session here! @stangarfield ;) #KMers |
| 4:34 pm | swanwick: | @mneff I didn't hear much about risk management at the conf. #KMers |
| 4:34 pm | forgingthefutur: | @mneff McAfee said we were too shy of risks, unnecessarily and to our loss #KMers |
| 4:34 pm | rickladd: | @VMaryAbraham - Thanks, Mary. I was using KMers.org. Could follow, but couldn't participate!! #KMers |
| 4:35 pm | forgingthefutur: | @klowey22 I can tell you that measurement of value remains a concern #KMers |
| 4:35 pm | swanwick: | @sourcepov My pleasure, but it was a much bigger team that just me that put this site together. #KMers |
| 4:35 pm | VMaryAbraham: | @AndreaMeyer Not to worry, Andrea. You've got lots of capital in the bank. Plus, you were doing nec. community building. #kmers |
| 4:35 pm | mneff: | @swanwick Was there any talk about the KM vs. Records management issue? We are facing that internally. #KMers |
| 4:36 pm | elsua: | @VMaryAbraham One other key point from @vanderwal's session was focusing on the low hanging fruit from #E20: Tagging. Loved it! #KMers |
| 4:36 pm | VMaryAbraham: | @forgingthefutur Macafee and risk: Has he talked to any lawyers lately? ;-) #kmers |
| 4:36 pm | klowey22: | @forgingthefutur ok, thanks, measurement and metrics always seem to be key... are there trending key metrics? #kmers |
| 4:36 pm | lehawes: | @VMaryAbraham Me too, Mary! #KMers |
| 4:36 pm | mdieterle: | @forgingthefutur While you always have to justify your business case, I hope we'll come to a point where it's just the way we work #KMers |
| 4:36 pm | swanwick: | @mneff Not that I heard, but there were 3 tracks and that is not the type of session that I attended. #KMers |
| 4:37 pm | elsua: | I suspect this initial TweetChat event is going to give us all plenty of ideas for future events in the next few weeks! W00t! #KMers |
| 4:37 pm | rickladd: | @elsua Ah. Folksonomy v. Taxonomy. One of my favorite subjects! #KMers |
| 4:37 pm | stangarfield: | I was on the #PKM panel - old blog on this http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/0c66a399ad/archive/2007/04/18/HPPost3150.aspx #KMers |
| 4:37 pm | mneff: | Is anyone measuring KM in terms of client value? Or are most still trying to show value as reduced search time? #KMers |
| 4:37 pm | BonnieKoenig: | @forgingthefutur Agree - I was commenting that finding the right balance is part of one's personal SM strategy. #KMers |
| 4:37 pm | swanwick: | @forgingthefutur Yes, but I didn't hear many people with solutions for measurement and value, just suggs for deflection. #KMers |
| 4:38 pm | forgingthefutur: | @mdieterle No one has to justify the telephone. Time helps to solve this problem #KMers |
| 4:38 pm | mneff: | Anything providing a visual navigation tool to incorporate personal views into their global knowledge? #KMers |
| 4:38 pm | rickladd: | @elsua Geez! Is this what speed-dating is like? Looking forward to mastering this method of communication. Excellent! #KMers |
| 4:38 pm | klowey22: | @forgingthefutur While you always have to justify your biz case,I hope we'll come to a point where it's just the way we work >agree! #kmers |
| 4:38 pm | forgingthefutur: | @BonnieKoenig Absolutely agree with you And it isn't easy to do #KMers |
| 4:39 pm | swanwick: | The best session I attended at #KMW09 was @nancymdixon doing High Impact Storytelling: http://bit.ly/4FzUHO #KMers |
| 4:39 pm | forgingthefutur: | @rickladd Haven't done any speed dating, but an analogy worth exploring :) #KMers |
| 4:39 pm | rickladd: | @VMaryAbraham Nobody I know of, but the (dare I say) anal types just can't get their minds "behind" (forgive me) the concept. #KMers |
| 4:39 pm | VMaryAbraham: | Impt for LIFE strategy too! RT @BonnieKoenig: @forgingthefutur Finding the right balance is part of one's personal #SM strategy. #kmers |
| 4:39 pm | mneff: | Anyone measuring knowledge flow (how much and how wide) or velocity (from inception to application)? #KMers |
| 4:39 pm | mdieterle: | @forgingthefutur Still remember the time when only the executive suite had Internet access :) #KMers |
| 4:40 pm | lehawes: | @swanwick Why? What did you learn and can share with us? #KMers |
| 4:40 pm | swanwick: | @mneff Not that I saw. Most of the presentations were pretty lowest common denominator. #KMers |
| 4:40 pm | elsua: | RT @VMaryAbraham: @rickladd @elsua Who can afford a nicely maintained taxonomy anymore??? < +1!! But look at the benefits of combined #KMers |
| 4:40 pm | rickladd: | @forgingthefutur Haven't either, but I bet it's actually easier to keep up with. #KMers |
| 4:40 pm | elsua: | ? @forgingthefutur: @mdieterle No one has to justify the telephone. Time helps to solve this problem < I surely hope so! & soon!! #KMers |
| 4:40 pm | forgingthefutur: | @mdieterle And I remember when it was just techies! #KMers |
| 4:41 pm | AndreaMeyer: | older post on #PKM personal knowledge management by @stangarfield http://ow.ly/FgGp #KM #kmers |
| 4:41 pm | elsua: | ? @swanwick: The best session I attended at #KMW09 was @nancymdixon doing High Impact Storytelling: http://bit.ly/4FzUHO < Brilliant! #KMers |
| 4:41 pm | VMaryAbraham: | @elsua @rickladd A skeletal taxonomy w/ rich folksonomy is the way to go. #kmers |
| 4:41 pm | swanwick: | @lehawes Sure, it was a great way to get people to share tacit knowledge and improve their ability to communicate at same time. #KMers |
| 4:42 pm | sourcepov: | RT @VMaryAbraham @mneff "How do you measure knowledge flows? Stopwatch? Traffic cops?" .. baselines & deltas (I'm old school) #kmers |
| 4:42 pm | rickladd: | Will there be something like an after action review when this is over? #KMers |
| 4:42 pm | forgingthefutur: | Who was it who talked about Neats and Scruffies? I think this reflects a more relaxed, mature vision of KM #KMers |
| 4:42 pm | pekadad: | Perhaps next time we have this conversation on Google Wave? This is interesting but what's "left" after this conversation is over? #KMers |
| 4:42 pm | elsua: | @rickladd Well, I'm thinking it may well be the excitement of the first event; I can imagine it'd slow down in future ones... #KMers |
| 4:42 pm | swanwick: | @VMaryAbraham My main takeaway from @nancymdixon session was that stories should be about people. #KMers |
| 4:43 pm | rickladd: | @VMaryAbraham Absolutely, Mary. I have been talking with my co. about a hybrid of controlled vocabulary/folksonomy. #KMers |
| 4:43 pm | mneff: | @VMaryAbraham Not sure yet. Just concepts to me. Some try to do it with page views or downloads. Not sure of value yet. #KMers |
| 4:43 pm | swanwick: | @rickladd Our goal is to post the transcript and have someone summarize. The #KMers channel is always open for #AAR #KMers |
| 4:43 pm | rickladd: | @elsua - Yeah. I hope so. Imagine there are ways to channel & thread when required. Making me feel my age. Eeek! #KMers |
| 4:43 pm | VMaryAbraham: | @swanwick Stories about people: is that b/c this is what resonates best or b/c we're all self-absorbed? #kmers |
| 4:43 pm | lehawes: | @swanwick Agree. Story telling happens informally all the time, but is an under-utilized tool in formal corporate programs. #KMers |
| 4:43 pm | elsua: | ? @sourcepov: @rickladd "Folksonomy".I'm probably the last one that realized hashtag creation on Twitter was folksonomy in action <+1 #KMers |
| 4:44 pm | forgingthefutur: | @VMaryAbraham Tagging? #KMers |
| 4:44 pm | swanwick: | @pekadad The transcript will be saved and attached to the chat event. #KMers |
| 4:44 pm | WeKnowMore: | Video is a great method of knowledge sharing. Just look at the TED videos or YouTube tutorials: enourmous potential for video in KM #KMers |
| 4:44 pm | rickladd: | @swanwick Shouldn't everything should be about people . . . I mean ultimately? #KMers |
| 4:44 pm | swanwick: | @elsua Twitter Lists are also a folksonomy #KMers |
| 4:44 pm | VMaryAbraham: | @mneff The concepts are great. If you can improve the efficiency of useful knowledge flows, it should improve decision making. #kmers |
| 4:44 pm | markgould13: | @VMaryAbraham It's all about emotional resonance. @unorder is great at this. #KMers |
| 4:45 pm | elsua: | @VMaryAbraham @rickladd RE: Skeletal taxonomy, I agree! And the less structure you give it to it the much more efficient it'll be #KMers |
| 4:45 pm | mdieterle: | @rickladd LOL, this is social networking on steroids. I am ready for an afternoon nap! #KMers |
| 4:45 pm | lehawes: | @VMaryAbraham Video is most expedient, but story can also be captured in text. Advantage there is ability to briefly summarize. #KMers |
| 4:45 pm | swanwick: | @VMaryAbraham Gr8 point. Once someone has honed their story, it should be recorded for posterity #KMers |
| 4:45 pm | klowey22: | RT @WeKnowMore: Video is a great method of knowledge sharing. Just look at the TED/YouTube: enourmous potential for video in KM #kmers |
| 4:45 pm | WeKnowMore: | RT @rickladd: @swanwick Shouldnt everything should be about people . . . I mean ultimately? <- Couldnt't agree more #KMers |
| 4:45 pm | VMaryAbraham: | @WeKnowMore You're right. Good videos package content and drama. Much more memorable than a white paper! #kmers |
| 4:45 pm | pekadad: | @swanwick Functionally, is this different from an IRC channel with logging enabled (and making the log public)? #KMers |
| 4:46 pm | swanwick: | @rickladd That's deep :) But, yes you are right. tools and process are there to serve people. #KMers |
| 4:46 pm | rickladd: | @SethHorwitz Hybrid would require some "gardening", but folks would inform tax. #KMers |
| 4:46 pm | mneff: | @VMaryAbraham Agree. At least that is the thought. Next is figuring out who needs what information to make decisions and feed them. #KMers |
| 4:46 pm | swanwick: | @lehawes Text is also searchable. Harder with video #KMers |
| 4:46 pm | forgingthefutur: | @lehawes Denning is the best I've seen on storytelling #KMers |
| 4:46 pm | mneff: | @klowey22 Agree. Some work being done to make it easier to search video contextually too. Big possibilities here. #KMers |
| 4:46 pm | elsua: | @forgingthefutur: Who was it who talked about Neats & Scruffies? I think this reflects a more relaxed, mature vision of KM < jmcgee #KMers |
| 4:46 pm | stangarfield: | I liked these speakers best at #kmw09: McAfee, Dixon, Li, Lambe, Gilmour, VanderWal. O'Dell #KMers |
| 4:47 pm | markgould13: | @mneff PKM: lots of tools -- try delicious.com for a start, then blogging (@DougCornelius is great at this). #KMers |
| 4:47 pm | swanwick: | @pekadad Yes, because this is going out over Twitter, it goes to everyone's followers and provides marketing for the community. #KMers |
| 4:47 pm | mdieterle: | @rickladd That's why we're talking about the social web now! Never really liked the term Social Media, much too narrow #KMers |
| 4:47 pm | markgould13: | @swanwick Tagged video could work well. Also Autonomy claim to be able to search audio and video. #KMers |
| 4:47 pm | rickladd: | @swanwick In a shallow, speed-dating, sort of way. It just blurted out. #KMers |
| 4:47 pm | markgould13: | @VMaryAbraham That might be a legal thing... #kmers |
| 4:48 pm | klowey22: | denning has great books, workshops and seminars... worth a look! #kmers |
| 4:48 pm | stangarfield: | #KMW09 extracurricular highlight was dinner with 30 SIKM Leader CoP members - great discussions and personal interactions. #KMers |
| 4:48 pm | lehawes: | @AndreaMeyer Cool! Can you provide a link please? Thanks! #KMers |
| 4:48 pm | mneff: | @stangarfield Why? Topics? Delivery? Experience? Value? Relevance? all of the above? #KMers |
| 4:48 pm | WeKnowMore: | @lehawes @swanwick @VMaryAbraham and such a video could be accompanied by a text summary of the knowledge shared in the KM technology #KMers |
| 4:48 pm | forgingthefutur: | @swanwick But stories shouldn't be TOO honed. #KMers |
| 4:48 pm | AndreaMeyer: | @swanwick and it's nice that people can just see the tweets and "drop in" without having known about it beforehand #kmers |
| 4:48 pm | VMaryAbraham: | It's a KM 1.0 thing too. RT @markgould13: @VMaryAbraham That might be a legal thing... #kmers |
| 4:48 pm | rickladd: | @mdieterle I like Andy McAfee's use of collaboration instead of social, though I've used social a lot. In my biz, doesn't work 2 well #KMers |
| 4:48 pm | swanwick: | {Moderator} For those who attended, how wld u like to see #KMW09 conf changed next year #KMers |
| 4:48 pm | elsua: | ? @rickladd: @swanwick Shouldnt everything should be about people . . . I mean ultimately? < Yes, sir! As always! #KMers |
| 4:48 pm | mneff: | @stangarfield Key threads from dinner? #KMers |
| 4:49 pm | SethHorwitz: | @rickladd "...folks would inform tax..." But I think it's important to distinguish which terms are folks & which are tax #kmers |
| 4:49 pm | swanwick: | @forgingthefutur Agreed, but check out my blog post on the session: http://bit.ly/4FzUHO #KMers |
| 4:49 pm | markgould13: | @WeKnowMore @snowded would warn against anyone else mediating narrative -- detracts from immediacy of the story. #KMers |
| 4:49 pm | VMaryAbraham: | @stangarfield The f2f meetings are critical for deepening our #SM connections. Sounds like yr dinner was terrific. #kmers |
| 4:49 pm | lehawes: | @WeKnowMore That sounds like the right approach to me. Most don't have search tools that index video content. #KMers |
| 4:49 pm | stangarfield: | @mneff Delivery, well-made points, practical advice, relevance to issues we all face. #KMers |
| 4:50 pm | elsua: | ? @forgingthefutur: @lehawes Denning is the best Ive seen on storytelling < & he is on Twitter, too! @stevedenning :-D #KMers |
| 4:50 pm | swanwick: | {Moderator} Anyone with thoughts about improving #KMWorld conference? #KMers |
| 4:52 pm | WeKnowMore: | @markgould13 text is only to make it retrievable, not as a replacement for the message that was shared That should remain intact. #KMers |
| 4:52 pm | VMaryAbraham: | @swanwick Improving #KMWorld? Make the conference cheaper for folks who can't claim business expense! #kmers |
| 4:52 pm | Cars4Causes: | RT @weknowmore: Video is a great method of knowledge sharing. Look at TED videos or YouTube tutorials: enourmous potential for video #KMers |
| 4:52 pm | SethHorwitz: | @rickladd agreed. folks and tax accommodate different cognitive strategies #kmers |
| 4:52 pm | forgingthefutur: | @VMaryAbraham Basically, neat want perfect taxonomies for instance, scruffies want whatever works. combination is powerful #KMers |
| 4:52 pm | lehawes: | @AndreaMeyer No worries. I'm sure I can track down Denning's writings. Thanks for looking. #KMers |
| 4:52 pm | rickladd: | @swanwick THAT is very disappointing to hear. #KMers |
| 4:53 pm | markgould13: | @WeKnowMore That sounds reasonable to me. #KMers |
| 4:53 pm | iglowmedia: | RT @weknowmore: Video is a great method of knowledge sharing. Just look at the TED videos or YouTube tutorials #KMers |
| 4:53 pm | rickladd: | @SethHorwitz Kind of exciting to ponder, don't you think? #KMers |
| 4:53 pm | forgingthefutur: | @AndreaMeyer Denning's Squirrel, Inc. is good #KMers |
| 4:53 pm | mneff: | @VMaryAbraham Even better. Make it completely available over the internet for people that aren't allowed to travel. #KMers |
| 4:53 pm | swanwick: | @klowey22 It was down from when I last attended in 2001. Sponsorship seemed WAY down. #KMers |
| 4:53 pm | markgould13: | @swanwick That doesn't sound good. #KMers |
| 4:53 pm | SethHorwitz: | @swanwick was there an active Twitter backchannel at #KMW09 ? #kmers |
| 4:53 pm | AndreaMeyer: | @lehawes also an interview w/ Denning at http://www.sociablemedia.com/articles_denning.htm #kmers |
| 4:53 pm | klowey22: | @swanwick did they use the digital nametags that help people connect? #kmers |
| 4:53 pm | elsua: | @VMaryAbraham It was actually a blog post; don't think @jmcgee was at the conference. I'll hunt down the link shortly... #KMers |
| 4:54 pm | rickladd: | @forgingthefutur Love it! Scruffie here. #KMers |
| 4:54 pm | lehawes: | @elsua Thanks bud! Just followed @stevedenning. #KMers |
| 4:54 pm | VMaryAbraham: | @forgingthefutur Got it. Was there any cost/benefit analysis comparing neat/scruffy approach? #kmers |
| 4:54 pm | WeKnowMore: | RT @mneff: @VMaryAbraham Even better. Make it completely available over the internet for people that arent allowed to travel. <- Yes #KMers |
| 4:54 pm | steveellwood: | @elsua @VMaryAbraham @rickladd butting in - minimal taxonomy, maximise folksonomy (but need a lot of taggers!) BTW like this tag! #kmers |
| 4:55 pm | swanwick: | @SethHorwitz It was barely promoted. There were a few dozen tweeters, but only 3 or 4 actually watching the hashtag stream #KMers |
| 4:55 pm | stangarfield: | @elsua Jim McGee was at the conference - it was great talking with him. #KMers |
| 4:55 pm | mneff: | Were there any discussions about how people were using social media to enhance KM efforts? Or how to harvest social discussions? #KMers |
| 4:55 pm | forgingthefutur: | @elsua McGee was at the conference #KMers |
| 4:55 pm | rickladd: | @lehawes @elsua - Me too! Thanks for reminding me. He's one of the pioneers I came across years ago. #KMers |
| 4:55 pm | swanwick: | @klowey22 There was no online collaboration environment. The badges were scanable by booth vendors, but not other participants. #KMers |
| 4:56 pm | forgingthefutur: | @VMaryAbraham No. I think people went into their separate corners: one, the other, both, neither #KMers |
| 4:56 pm | markgould13: | @WeKnowMore And to reduce carbon emissions. #KMers |
| 4:56 pm | elsua: | @steveellwood @VMaryAbraham @rickladd Agree, although even with few taggers the value is still tremendous! Use case, IBM's Dogear #KMers |
| 4:56 pm | VMaryAbraham: | @steveellwood Welcome, Steve. We'll never have lots of taggers (see 90-9-1 rule). We just need enough taggers. @elsua @rickladd #kmers |
| 4:56 pm | AndreaMeyer: | @forgingthefutur thanks for the Squirrel, Inc tip! #kmers |
| 4:56 pm | stangarfield: | @SethHorwitz Yes, the #kmw09 tag was used for live tweeting #KMers |
| 4:56 pm | swanwick: | {moderator} OK 5 mins left. Throw out topics you would like to see on upcoming chats. #KMers |
| 4:56 pm | mdieterle: | @swanwick wow, that's pathetic for a KM conference, but it shows that practicing what you preach is easier said than done #KMers |
| 4:57 pm | VMaryAbraham: | @swanwick Here's the dead giveaway -- did the conference have adequate WiFi? @elsua #kmers |
| 4:57 pm | mneff: | @swanwick I used the script from Tweetgrid to include the tweets from KMW09 into our KM group via an html widget in Jive (internal.) #KMers |
| 4:57 pm | rickladd: | @steveellwood I agree, Steve. Lots of tagging. Hmmm. That will be interesting to watch develop at my co. #KMers |
| 4:57 pm | elsua: | @stangarfield Ahhh, so @jmcgee was there after all! My bad. Good stuff! I guess we just need to bring him over here ;-) #KMers |
| 4:57 pm | SethHorwitz: | @klowey22 did they use the digital nametags that help people connect? Paper tags can be used much better too: http://is.gd/52L1W #kmers |
| 4:57 pm | sourcepov: | @stangarfield wow, serendipity .. was just mulling a possible new SIKM CoP yesterday #kmers |
| 4:58 pm | AndreaMeyer: | @mneff #socialmedia tools like InnovationSpigit and software #Goldfire both harvest social discussions #KM #kmers |
| 4:58 pm | VMaryAbraham: | @swanwick New topics: All of the @stangarfield insights from his #KMWorld session. #kmers |
| 4:58 pm | swanwick: | @VMaryAbraham Actually, I was pleasantly surprised with wifi. One could connect from all the session rooms. #KMers |
| 4:58 pm | rickladd: | @VMaryAbraham Then it will be few taggers; lots of tags. Best bet is s/w that can do tagging for us. We're test driving just that. #KMers |
| 4:58 pm | mdieterle: | @swanwick Socialtext was used in the past at KMworld. Maybe there wasn't too much pickup... #KMers |
| 4:59 pm | elsua: | ? @VMaryAbraham: @swanwick Heres the dead giveaway -- did the conference have adequate WiFi? @elsua [Listening] #KMers |
| 4:59 pm | swanwick: | @mneff Wld love to lear more about your Twitter integration #KMers |
| 4:59 pm | VMaryAbraham: | @swanwick That's great. There were reportedly WiFi problems at the #e20conf in Boston. #kmers |
| 4:59 pm | lehawes: | @swanwick In future, let's do deeper dives on 1) Personal KM and 2) storytelling. #KMers |
| 4:59 pm | elsua: | @swanwick @VMaryAbraham Whooooahhhh, who would have thought! Amazing! Will need to think about making it next year! :-D #KMers |
| 4:59 pm | swanwick: | @mdieterle There are lots of event collab vendors now: pathable, crowdvine, Social Collective, etc... #KMers |
| 5:00 pm | stangarfield: | @elsua Jim's post http://bit.ly/6EqFJS/ #KMers |
| 5:00 pm | swanwick: | Any more topic ideas? #KMers |
| 5:00 pm | mneff: | @swanwick Not a big deal. Essentially it caught the feed and displayed it in our internal group so if they wanted they could connect. #KMers |
| 5:00 pm | elsua: | ? @VMaryAbraham: @swanwick New topics: All of the @stangarfield insights from his #KMWorld session < Yes, please! One by one... #KMers |
| 5:00 pm | VMaryAbraham: | @swanwick New Topics: Focusing #KM efforts to yield more #Innovation. #kmers |
| 5:00 pm | WeKnowMore: | RT @VMaryAbraham: @swanwick Thats great. There were reportedly WiFi problems at the #e20conf in Boston. <- that's really funny & sad #KMers |
| 5:00 pm | lehawes: | @VMaryAbraham Yes e20conf Boston WiFi was horrible, but San Francisco event this month was flawless. #KMers |
| 5:01 pm | rickladd: | @ericmack Your name is NOT being taken in vain at the first #KMers TweetChat. Love your post on 13 KM lessons. |
| 5:01 pm | pekadad: | @swanwick I forget who mentioned it earlier, but a discussion of measuring knowledge flow would be interesting #KMers |
| 5:01 pm | swanwick: | {moderator} thx everyone for making this such an active chat. Ongoing, we will pick one topic per chat and deep dive. #KMers |
| 5:01 pm | elsua: | ? @stangarfield: @elsua Jims post http://bit.ly/6EqFJS/ < Yes, sir! That was the one! Thanks for sharing it across! #KMers |
| 5:01 pm | VMaryAbraham: | Agreed. RT @lehawes: @swanwick In future, lets do deeper dives on 1) Personal KM and 2) storytelling. #kmers |
| 5:01 pm | stangarfield: | @swanwick Share one practical idea you have implemented in the past 3 months that could be reused. #KMers |
| 5:01 pm | AndreaMeyer: | @swanwick have to drop off now - thank you very much for moderating! Will read transcript for what I missed #kmers |
| 5:01 pm | elsua: | ? @lehawes: @swanwick In future, lets do deeper dives on 1) Personal KM and 2) storytelling < Agree! Focus on 1 or 2 & explore #KMers |
| 5:01 pm | swanwick: | {moderator} the chat will be archived and summarized (though that will be hard for this one) :) #KMers |
| 5:01 pm | SethHorwitz: | @swanwick topic suggestion: mind/concept mapping (comparisons, strategies...) #kmers |
| 5:01 pm | steveellwood: | @VMaryAbraham @rickladd do we want s/w that guesses tags/offers taggers their frequently used (del.icio.us?) #kmers |
| 5:02 pm | mneff: | Innovation, ideation, knowledge generation, KM techniques, building the business case, personal KM, define a practical idea, ... #KMers |
| 5:02 pm | sourcepov: | really missed going to #kmworld so yes, review topic by topic here would be awesome; maybe even invite a few orig speakers? #kmers |
| 5:02 pm | klowey22: | thanks all, great km chat! #kmers |
| 5:02 pm | swanwick: | @stangarfield one practical idea = simulcasting association chapter meetings to share qlty content with the world rather than a room #KMers |
| 5:02 pm | lehawes: | Nice chatting with all you #km types and good to see many old friends here! Over and out. #KMers |
| 5:03 pm | SethHorwitz: | @swanwick thanks for initiating this. Wild & wooly first time (lots of folks had lots to say). #kmers |
| 5:03 pm | swanwick: | @sourcepov Great idea. We will see if we can get some of the speakers to host a chat on their #KMW09 topic here at #KMers |
| 5:03 pm | rickladd: | @swanwick Assume transcript will be available at KMers.org? TweetChat? #KMers |
| 5:03 pm | mneff: | @sourcepov Agree. Maybe list of each session and top 3 points from each session would be valued. #KMers |
| 5:03 pm | elsua: | @SethHorwitz I agree with Seth, creating a mindmap of this chat archive would be a killer! MindMeister anyone?!?! #KMers |
| 5:03 pm | mdieterle: | Thanks everyone. Great #KM content, quite a lot to digest. Looking forward to the next one. #KMers |
| 5:04 pm | VMaryAbraham: | Thanks for a great #KM chat. Looking forward to some deep dives next time. #kmers |
| 5:04 pm | pekadad: | @swanwick Thanks - an interesting way to interact. Hard to follow at times, but interesting! #KMers |
| 5:04 pm | rickladd: | @swanwick - Glad I happened to be home from work and paying attention. Great chat. Made my day. Thanks much. #KMers |
| 5:05 pm | rickladd: | @elsua Me too! #KMers |
| 5:05 pm | stangarfield: | Nice talking with you all. I look forward to deep diving into the 13 KM insights on future sessions. #KMers |
| 5:05 pm | elsua: | Thanks a bunch, everyone, for joining! Thoroughly enjoyed it! Will breathe now & dive into the archive when available. Twitter ON! #KMers |
| 5:05 pm | swanwick: | @rickladd Yes, transcript will be available on KMers.org We will tweet the link #KMers |
| 5:06 pm | sourcepov: | Great meeting everyone today; looking forward to brainstorms in #km #sm .. and of course applications in #e20 #gov20 #kmers |
| 5:06 pm | swanwick: | @pekadad Glad you enjoyed. Just like with twitter as a whole, you have to be OK with not seeing everything. #KMers |
| 5:06 pm | rickladd: | @swanwick Gr8! Thanks again. This was some joyride! #KMers |
| 5:07 pm | mneff: | @swanwick Agree. Just jump in where it feels right. Thanks for doing this for us. Until next time ... #KMers |
| 5:08 pm | elsua: | ? @rickladd: @swanwick Gr8! Thanks again. This was some joyride! < It surely was! Still breathing out loud catching my breath! W00t!! #KMers |
| 5:08 pm | rickladd: | My thanks to all (well, those who are left, tho I guess you might see this anyway). Great time. Good thoughts. Rick out! #KMers |
| 5:09 pm | rickladd: | @elsua Boy Howdy! Now back to email for a moment (sorry Luis, gotta keep up). #KMers |
| 5:11 pm | elsua: | @rickladd Bad, bad, bad boy! What have I taught you all of these months! Stay away from it! :-P (LOL) #KMers |
| 5:13 pm | UBC_NCIE: | RT @weknowmore: Video is a great method of knowledge sharing. i.e. TED videos or YouTube tutorials: enourmous potential for video KMb #KMers |
| 5:20 pm | elsua: | WOW! The #KMers TweetChat event has been quite a blast & 1st lesson learned for yours truly: join it through @elsuacon next time :-D |
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