Personal Knowledge Management
Chat Event:
Date & time:
Tuesday, February 9, 2010 - 17:00 - 18:00 UTC
Transcript:
5:01 pm VMaryAbraham: {moderator} Welcome to this KMers' Tweet chat on Personal Knowledge Management. Please introduce yourselves and then we'll dive in! #kmers
5:01 pm Ridgehead: Matt Haggerty, Chicago Hello everyone! #KMers #KMers
5:01 pm rickladd: Rick Ladd from Pratt & Whitney Rocketdyne; member of 2.0 Adoption Council #KMers
5:02 pm petertwo: Peter West, Management Consultant (London, Ontario, Canada) #KMers #PKM #KM
5:02 pm VMaryAbraham: I'm a knowledge manager and corporate lawyer in NYC. I'm also a big #PKM fan. You can find me at AboveandBeyondKM.com. #kmers
5:02 pm bobdejonge: Bob De Jonge here. Michigan Tech Univ. Capstone Design Program - engineering design research. looking forward to this! #kmers
5:02 pm jeffhester: Greetings! Jeff Hester from Fluor in drizzly southern California. #KMers
5:02 pm markgould13: Mark Gould here (Manchester, UK). I have blogged a couple of times about the power of #PKM. #KMers
5:02 pm pekadad: @VMaryAbraham Lee Romero from Deloitte in Detroit here. Looks like an interesting topic #KMers
5:03 pm stangarfield: Stan Garfield of Deloitte in Detroit - community evangelist for Consulting. Participated in a #PKM panel at KMWorld 2009. #KMers
5:03 pm MVMNT_Mike: Mike Jewsbury, Philly. Looking forward to this @VMaryAbraham #KMers
5:03 pm richdurost: LTC Rich Durost, KM Chief at Standing Joint Force Headquarters, Pacific Command in Hawaii #KMers
5:03 pm NavyKM: Jill Robertson from a Navy Training organization in San Diego and Solute Consulting #KMers
5:03 pm dougcornelius: I'm an ex-KM practioner, now in the compliance field, with enormous PKM needs. #kmers
5:04 pm mathemagenic: joining #PKM #KMers chat, at least as long as the little guy is asleep http://www.kmers.org/chatevent/personal-knowledge-management
5:04 pm lehawes: Hi friends. Larry Hawes from Gilbane Group. Analyst and consultant on collaboration and KM. #KMers
5:04 pm elsua: Hi folks! Luis Suarez from cloudy Gran Canaria; KMer, CommunityBuilder & Social Computing Evangelist @ IBM #KMers
5:05 pm markgould13: @dougcornelius You are a poster-boy for #PKM -- I use your blog as an example for people when introducing the topic. #KMers
5:05 pm jackvinson: Hello #KMers we'll see if this works over lunch with 3.y.o.
5:07 pm VMaryAbraham: {moderator} What a rich and diverse group! Welcome, everyone. I assume we're preaching to the converted, but if not, do let me know. #kmers
5:07 pm WeKnowMore: Hi! Johan Lammers from UNICEF & weknowmore.org. Currently living in beautiful New York #kmers
5:08 pm VMaryAbraham: Q1: What effective means have you found to aggregate, filter and share information? #kmers
5:08 pm taramohn: Hello #KMers let's talk about PKM!
5:08 pm mathemagenic: Hi #KMers! #pkm/blogging researcher struggling to find her own way to do it in practice is here :) blog.mathemagenic.com #KMers
5:08 pm lehawes: @richdurost Nice to meet you! I did some KM work at USJFCOM HQ as an IBM consultant. #KMers
5:08 pm VMaryAbraham: HINT: Outlook folders better NOT be your answer!!! #kmers
5:09 pm rickladd: Anybody know if we're going to add a translation capability so people from non-English speaking parts of the world can participate? #KMers
5:09 pm elsua: @VMaryAbraham don't think so;I'd be curious to know whether folks feel #pkm could successfully bridge #KM & #SM; & whether it matters #KMers
5:09 pm markgould13: For me #PKM is a precursor for social knowledge sharing, so I use Delicious, Twitter and Wordpress. Trying enterprise apps. #KMers
5:10 pm richdurost: @lehawes Nice to meet you, too. I've been here for over 2.5 years. Getting ready to move to Ft. Meade this summer #KMers
5:10 pm rickladd: I've been working with the Personal Brain to organize my thoughts, connections, etc. My brain's pretty scattered, tho. #KMers
5:10 pm WeKnowMore: Twitter is a good one! ;-) Another trusted source is my Google reader with the blogs of all you guys in it. #kmers
5:10 pm elsua: Answer to Q1: to me my network(s); which is why I cultivate them as best as I possibly can;they aggregate, filter & share info across #KMers
5:10 pm VMaryAbraham: @elsua Luis, can you say more about #PKM bridging the gap btwn #KM and #SM? #kmers
5:10 pm lehawes: @VMaryAbraham Most of my aggregation is combination of RSS feeds and saved topical queries of social networks. #KMers
5:11 pm pekadad: @VMaryAbraham Tools like del.icio.us can help keep a single place for items accessible via URL #KMers
5:11 pm petertwo: Effective means - aggregate: Tools that *fit* are essential. Key is to enable migration of content to new tools (export/import) #KMers
5:11 pm jeffhester: For sharing, I use Delicious and Flickr (tagging rocks). And of course, Twitter. #KMers
5:11 pm Ridgehead: We've been using Google Docs and a wiki to share info within the company #KMers
5:11 pm MVMNT_Mike: @VMaryAbraham Re Q1 Most social media tools. I find twitter to be great for the conversations. Bookmarks for saving info (any tool) #KMers
5:11 pm rickladd: I don't mean the program; I mean "my brain"! #KMers
5:11 pm markgould13: @elsua Absolutely, Luis. #PKM works best when it can be socialised (http://bit.ly/jzLYH) #KM #SM #KMers
5:11 pm mathemagenic: @VMaryAbraham blogging! http://bit.ly/5BtTPC however the main problem is the time to be invested now for the future #KMers
5:11 pm jonhusband: RT @rickladd Rick Ladd from Pratt & Whitney Rocketdyne; member of 2.0 Adoption Council #KMers
5:11 pm pekadad: @VMaryAbraham As others have noted, things like RSS aggregators (web-based like Google or desktop-based) can also be useful #KMers
5:11 pm lehawes: @VMaryAbraham I also prefer to share information via social networks, or by cloud services such as Box.net, SlideShare, YouTube, etc. #KMers
5:11 pm RichardHare: Richard Hare - KM specialist in London #KMers
5:11 pm elsua: @VMaryAbraham Most folks have always associated #pkm w/ that sharing of tacit knowledge, so thought there may be a connection w/ SM #KMers
5:11 pm WeKnowMore: @rickladd What we could do is have a google translate button at KMers.org Future maybe Google Wave which has translating capabilities #kmers
5:12 pm MVMNT_Mike: I also find GMail and Google Docs as great tools. #KMers
5:12 pm lehawes: @VMaryAbraham Yes, let's focus on one stage at a time. (i.e. Aggregation first) #KMers
5:12 pm pekadad: @VMaryAbraham As can search tools that can search across your own web assets, general internet and local content repositories #KMers
5:12 pm rickladd: @bobdejonge Have to look. Thx. Wasn't thinking for myself, but wondering what it would be like to include others. #KMers
5:12 pm jeffhester: RT @elsua: to me my network(s); which is why I cultivate them as best as I possibly can;they aggregate, filter & share info across #KMers
5:12 pm markgould13: @VMaryAbraham I think they need to be blended (not necessarily in this chat, but in use). #KMers
5:12 pm elsua: ? @markgould13: @elsua Absolutely, Luis. #PKM works best when it can be socialised (http://bit.ly/jzLYH) #KM #SM / Thanks 4 sharing! #KMers
5:13 pm jaycross: Jay Cross, Berkeley, California http://bit.ly/c1dstP #KMers
5:13 pm VMaryAbraham: @markgould13 Agree that in practice they are blended, but for analytical purposes, a little separation might help today. #kmers
5:13 pm Ridgehead: Those that use gmail and google docs - look out for google's announcement later today: http://bit.ly/9W4kNe #KMers
5:13 pm rickladd: @lehawes @vmaryabraham I agree. Aggregation? #KMers
5:14 pm jeffhester: @elsua makes a great point about our personal networks being key. Most of the tools mentioned work best when shared. #KMers
5:14 pm dougcornelius: @elsua I see a distinction is between consumption and production. SM helps bridge the old gap by combining the two. #kmers
5:14 pm JohnReaves: John Reaves playing around with innovation, knowledge and content management in NYC #kmers
5:14 pm 4KM: @elsua re: tacit knowledge...Steve Barth was an early PKM advocate & also focused on tools, quick access to info etc. #KMers
5:14 pm MVMNT_Mike: @Ridgehead Yes, switching over to the Google announcement after this. #KMers
5:14 pm elsua: "What do u do first"? I start with microsharing sites, then my feeds, then my communities; regardless of the tool; more on to people #KMers
5:15 pm WeKnowMore: @bobdejonge @rickladd Wow didn't know that. We will add the link to Tweetie on the website. #kmers
5:15 pm VMaryAbraham: So we have personal aggregation via RSS and group aggregation via our networks? Anything else? #kmers
5:15 pm markgould13: For aggregation, I use Bloglines (for external RSS), Newsgator (enterprise) and Twitter (for good people to show me things I miss). #KMers
5:15 pm lehawes: Aggregation is touch. I still haven't found one site/tool that will do it all. Closest is using Google Reader and RSS. #KMers
5:15 pm VMaryAbraham: @elsua So the content that comes via your network is more valuable than your feeds? #kmers
5:16 pm JohnReaves: I think of it as the "capture" problem ... particularly difficult with some communities (e.g. busy people in the field) #kmers
5:16 pm elsua: @dougcornelius I agree! #pkm has always been about consuming & producing content (read/write blogs,tweets, etc.) #KMers
5:16 pm markgould13: @VMaryAbraham That's a good summary. There is also circularity -- my filtering feeds someone elses aggregation. #KMers
5:16 pm lehawes: One advantage of the RSS reader is that most saved queries can be saved as RSS feeds too. #KMers
5:16 pm jackvinson: to organize stuff I love PersonalBrain #kmers but not helpful to publish / provide to others
5:16 pm VMaryAbraham: RT @markgould13: @VMaryAbraham Thats a good summary. There is also circularity -- my filtering feeds someone elses aggregation. #kmers
5:16 pm rickladd: I find I'm somewhat overwhelmed with all the content I come across from Twitter alone (& only follow about 200 tweeps) #KMers
5:17 pm elsua: @4KM Well, I'm thinking there may well be far too many tools / choices out there, that's why I focus more on the networks around me #KMers
5:17 pm JohnReaves: We're working on prototype aggregation platform, optimized for turning conversations into narratives #kmers
5:17 pm richdurost: Although these tools mentioned are great for sharing/aggregation, another key part of #PKM is knowledge storage (tacit/elicit)...How? #KMers
5:17 pm sliewehr: Hey guys, Scott Liewehr here, WCM analyst/consultant with Gilbane Group here, based in NYC. Joining late. #KMers
5:17 pm markgould13: @rickladd I use things like Microplaza and Readtwit to help with that. #KMers
5:17 pm pekadad: @lehawes Also, many tools provide RSS feeds even if what is in the feed is not something you'd normally expect to find. #KMers
5:17 pm mathemagenic: aggregation is nice, but for me fails to deliver without personalised ways to store and find back #KMers
5:18 pm jeffhester: @VMaryAbraham content that is pre-filtered by people who know me is more valuable than any other feed #KMers
5:18 pm rickladd: @jackvinson Agreed! I use PB myself. It would help if I wasn't such a space cadet (or, help more I should say. It helps a lot!) #KMers
5:18 pm pekadad: @lehawes RSS provides the common structure for "things of interest" #KMers
5:18 pm Ridgehead: we are an average of what our closest peers/friends/coworkers use. #KMers #KMers
5:18 pm elsua: @VMaryAbraham Yes, it is! Because it's already filtered socially & collaboratively by those who know me; more relevant content #KMers
5:18 pm 4KM: @4KM Back then, no one seemed to be linking PKM, RSS, networks, synthesis, Pknowledge creation etc. & that bothered me #KMers
5:18 pm steveellwood: I aggregate with netvibes; ashare via Posterous miniblog, twitter, which I feed into yammer for some collegaues who *don't* tweet #KMers
5:18 pm lehawes: @VMaryAbraham I start with feeds for aggregation. Friends/Twitter are more filtering mechanisms. I follow on Twitter based on topic. #KMers
5:18 pm frogpond: @lehawes oh yes, this combination does it for me too (once I had high hopes for Friendfeed too, but you know) #KMers
5:18 pm markgould13: @richdurost If it's on the web, someone else is storing it. If I have a new insight as a result, I can blog it. #KMers
5:19 pm VMaryAbraham: {Moderator} Let's spend a couple of minutes on filtering. I'm hearing that personal brain is a good choice. Other tools/methods? #kmers
5:19 pm jackvinson: for bringing in new stuff, I scan Twitter. slightly more blogs via Google Reader. Plus what I get in direct comms. #KMers
5:19 pm sliewehr: I prefer to start w friends/Twitter vs feeds because it's pre-filtered, but certainly have my bread & butter feeds as well #KMers
5:19 pm lehawes: @pekadad Absolutely. The brilliance of RSS is that it's both simple and universal. #KMers
5:19 pm VMaryAbraham: @frogpond Should we have a moment's silence for friendfeed? #kmers
5:19 pm mathemagenic: once you have to many feeds RSS readers fail. twitter is always more personal and more in-the-moment #KMers
5:19 pm markgould13: @elsua There is a risk that you just see what the echo chamber wants you to see -- less serendipity? #KMers
5:19 pm elsua: @VMaryAbraham I guess the split comes from those who care more about content vs. those who care more about networks;complementary tho #KMers
5:19 pm 4KM: @VMaryAbraham I'm much more of a network & content person (could benefit more frm tools). Was commenting that tools hv been pt of mix #KMers
5:19 pm pekadad: @bobdejonge I think the challenge is combining internal (to the enterprise) feeds and external feeds #KMers
5:20 pm bobdejonge: I can't remember the last time I clicked on an RSS link? #kmers
5:20 pm markgould13: RT @lehawes: @pekadad Absolutely. The brilliance of RSS is that its both simple and universal. > Excellent! #KMers
5:20 pm jackvinson: for sharing: blog and twitter. I'd love better ways to incorporate Shared Items, Comments, Delicious that doesn't feel like spam #KMers
5:20 pm lehawes: @bobdejonge No. I see RSS as a key element in most aggregation solutions that are available. Dedicated readers seem to be fading out. #KMers
5:20 pm richdurost: @markgould Although data is stored on the web, going back and finding those knowledge nuggets becomes a huge challenge #KMers
5:20 pm dougcornelius: Organizing feeds is important. I group two ways: topic and priority. Valued sources get higher priority. #KMers
5:20 pm pekadad: @bobdejonge I end up having to have 2 tools because I like Google reader a lot but it can't use password-protected feeds #KMers
5:20 pm elsua: ? @dougcornelius: @elsua First generation KM separated the two. Now we have seen better ways to combine them / Agree w/ that 100%! #KMers
5:20 pm RichardHare: I tend to stick with Bloglines out of habit - already picking up some good aternatives #KMers
5:20 pm rickladd: @elsua Yes. I care about both. In fact, I judge some of the quality of the content based on the quality of the connection. #KMers
5:20 pm lehawes: @VMaryAbraham LOL. Yes, silence for FriendFeed, which died well before its useful life was over. #KMers
5:21 pm markgould13: @jackvinson Friendfeed should do that, but it doesn't stick for me. #KMers
5:21 pm WeKnowMore: I also use this Chrome plugin http://readitlaterlist.com/ to flag articles that I come across and whant to read later. To not BM it #kmers
5:21 pm rickladd: @AndreaMeyer Hi Andrea. #KMers 5:21 pm jackvinson: Filtering: it's a process that involves my personal world as well as that mediated by network. #kmers
5:21 pm elsua: ? @jeffhester: @VMaryAbraham content that is pre-filtered by people who know me is more valuable than any other feed / Exactly! :-D #KMers
5:22 pm dougcornelius: @markgould The echo chamber is true for any media. Do you watch MSNBC or FOX? #kmers
5:22 pm VMaryAbraham: @jackvinson Any systems/methods you'd recommend for filtering? #kmers
5:22 pm klowey22: RT @markgould13: @jackvinson Friendfeed should do that, but it doesn't stick for me. #KMers > what about friendster? twine? #kmers
5:22 pm 4KM: RT @rickladd I judge some of the quality of the content based on the quality of the connection (common & important!) #KMers
5:22 pm jackvinson: @mathemagenic Happily, people are blogging less, so my ~300+ feeds aren't as overwhelming as they once were. #KMers
5:22 pm rickladd: @VMaryAbraham Yeah, well. :) They (incl u) seem up to the task. Only wish I had more time to reciprocate. #KMers
5:22 pm jaycross: Filter with Delicious. Best of friend-filtering and popularity. #KMers
5:22 pm markgould13: I think there is a growing view here that #PKM delivers best when it involves others at some stage. #KMers
5:22 pm petertwo: Aggregation for awareness (and archiving); networks and communities for conversations, contexts, solutions #KMers
5:23 pm pekadad: @AndreaMeyer Yes - I have some twitter feeds set up as RSS feeds in Google Reader, actually (to keep one place to look) #KMers
5:23 pm mathemagenic: filtering based on personal interests + current work/problems + patterns in network. unfortunately no good tools #KMers
5:23 pm lehawes: @dougcornelius Agree. Feedly does a nice job of sorting by both topic and source priority. And leverages GOOG Reader subscriptions. #KMers
5:23 pm markgould13: @klowey22 Not tried those -- so many tools, so little time! #KMers
5:23 pm frogpond: . @VMaryAbraham please stop it, you're soo hurting my feelings 8D #poorfriendfeedallfacebooked #kmers
5:23 pm AndreaMeyer: @jackvinson lol re: people are blogging less (that's like when we were glad a thin magazine arrived) :-) #kmers
5:23 pm VMaryAbraham: Agreed. RT @markgould13: I think there is a growing view here that #PKM delivers best when it involves others at some stage. #kmers
5:23 pm rickladd: RT @VMaryAbraham: {moderator} It sounds like sharing is the easy piece! Twitter, delicious, blogging, others? #kmers
5:24 pm AndreaMeyer: do folks use stumbleupon? RT @VMaryAbraham: {mod} It sounds like sharing is the easy piece! Twitter, delicious, blogging, others? #kmers
5:24 pm rickladd: @jackvinson I've actually used PB to create a CV (not for a real job; for a final project for a KM masters class) #KMers
5:24 pm steveellwood: @bobdejonge I take all feeds in aggregator; Twitter network gives pointers to nuggets; inside co. newsgroups serve as my memory #kmers
5:24 pm markgould13: I have Posterous and Tumblr accounts, but haven't yet found a way of building them into my #PKM flow. I know others have. #KMers
5:24 pm lehawes: @VMaryAbraham Certainly Twitter for sharing, but also cloud-based content management services that cross firewalls. gDocs, Box.net... #KMers
5:25 pm VMaryAbraham: Perhaps we can generate one from this chat. RT @4KM: An annotated list of tools would be great (must already exist?) #kmers
5:25 pm elsua: @markgould13: Not really; that's the whole point behind cultivating a diverse network or set of networks; serendipity'll still happen #KMers
5:25 pm jaycross: I follow a dozen high-priority blogs via email, so as not to miss them, the rest with Google Reader or RSS of Google Reader. #KMers
5:25 pm frogpond: @VMaryAbraham I see a lot of fascination with easy-to-share-and-reblog things like #tumblr and #posterous too #kmers
5:25 pm rickladd: RT @4KM: An annotated list of tools would be great (must already exist?) If it doesn't, we need to create one (from this chat?) #KMers
5:25 pm 4KM: Just thought of PKM as the narrow pt of the hourglass. Reflect, filter, synthesize, organize & go macro again. #KMers
5:25 pm markgould13: @VMaryAbraham Good action point! #KMers
5:25 pm Ridgehead: One issue is how to filter professional from personal info streams. They are blended in twitter, FB, LI, email. Info overload. #KMers
5:26 pm jaycross: RT @markgould13: I have Posterous and Tumblr accounts.. I use both for re-publishing, not for collecting. #KMers
5:26 pm Ridgehead: I like it! RT @4KM: Just thought of PKM as the narrow pt of the hourglass. Reflect, filter, synthesize, organize & go macro again. #KMers
5:26 pm lehawes: @markgould13 Yes Mark! Others help us determine relevance of information. Wisdom of crowds... #KMers
5:26 pm mathemagenic: @jaycross interesting. using email not to miss important things available in RSS (something for RSS readers to improve?) #KMers
5:26 pm markgould13: @Ridgehead Work and personal blend in so many areas. #KMers
5:26 pm rickladd: RT @VMaryAbraham: @lehawes Services that cross firewalls could freak out management in regulated industries... (LOL. Like totally!) #KMers
5:27 pm 4KM: @Ridgehead Turn on side and integrate life rather than filtering for fragments? Only half kidding. #KMers
5:27 pm lehawes: @VMaryAbraham Indeed. Those services have to work 2x hard to demonstrate information security and reliability. But they can. :>) #KMers
5:27 pm francescgo: Se está produciendo una interesante conversación sobre Knowledge Management en el tag #KMers (+info http://www.kmers.org/)
5:27 pm steveellwood: @dougcornelius "Stories most mentioned" like a roll your own Alltop? #kmers
5:27 pm AndreaMeyer: intsting! RT @dougcornelius: Been using Twitter Times 4 Twitter aggregation. It lists stories most mentioned by the people u follow. #kmers
5:27 pm pekadad: @mathemagenic I'd like to have a single "inbox" combining my emails and all of my feeds. Outlook RSS doesn't provide that, sadly. #KMers
5:28 pm rickladd: @lehawes @vmaryabraham I'm thinking they must! Can't wait 'til they do #KMers
5:28 pm lehawes: @Ridgehead I'm not sure you can filter incoming personal from professional info. I gave up trying to do that for the most part. #KMers
5:28 pm markgould13: @pekadad Newsgator inside the firewall does that for me. #KMers
5:28 pm stangarfield: @mathemagenic I use Feed My Inbox to follow RSS feeds in email, including saved Twitter searches for topics of interest. #KMers
5:28 pm mathemagenic: @4KM I think that integration is the most challenging part of #pkm, especially since fragments multiply... #KMers
5:29 pm VMaryAbraham: {moderator} Time is flying folks! Let's try another question. #kmers
5:29 pm elsua: @markgould13: RE: #PKM delivers best when it involves others at some stage / It helps augment the personal experience to a social one #KMers
5:29 pm 4KM: @VMaryAbraham @elsua I find the necessary degree of diversity of thought relates to nature of task. Probably affects tools as well. #KMers
5:29 pm dougcornelius: Here is my Twitter Times: http://www.twittertim.es/dougcornelius Adds relevancy to twitter. Something it's sorely lacking. #KMers
5:29 pm Beamena: RT @francescgo interesante conversación sobre Knowledge Management en el tag #KMers (+info http://www.kmers.org/)//THANKS voy pa allá
5:29 pm rickladd: So many tools; so little time. We do need a compilation (at least I do). They seem endless! #KMers
5:29 pm stangarfield: @pekadad This could be the unified field theory of PKM. #KMers
5:29 pm steveellwood: Have any tried gist? roll up blogs, email, Twitter etc. #KMers
5:29 pm dougcornelius: PKM is about motivation. Organize, publish and filer for personal use. Others benefit as a side product. #KMers
5:30 pm mathemagenic: @pekadad @stangarfield I also use email inbox as a filter for the important that's easy to miss in rss #KMers
5:30 pm lehawes: @VMaryAbraham @elsua Quality of network does matter. Must balance relevance, diversity, and reputation of people chosen to follow. #KMers
5:30 pm markgould13: @VMaryAbraham I think corporate #KM is rapidly losing out to #PKM. Good thing too in many sectors. #KMers
5:30 pm pekadad: @stangarfield With RSS as the Higg's Boson that keeps the theory together, right? ;-) #KMers
5:31 pm JohnReaves: RT @stangarfield @pekadad This could be the unified field theory of PKM. < I like that! #KMers
5:31 pm markgould13: @dougcornelius Agreed. People have little motivation for corporate #KM. #KMers
5:31 pm 4KM: Q2 I think that comes back to culture, norms, rewards, understanding of benefits etc. They could compete or catalyze. #KMers
5:31 pm MVMNT_Mike: @VMaryAbraham I almost think it's the other way around. (If done right) corporate is a good foundation for #PKM #KMers
5:31 pm rickladd: RT @stangarfield: @pekadad This could be the unified field theory of PKM. <+1 #KMers
5:31 pm jaycross: I use an automatic aggregator that scans several hundred sources I trust and weighs them. Searchable. http://flow.informl.com/ #KMers
5:31 pm KevinDJones: Isn't corporate KM = sum of #PKM s? #kmers
5:31 pm elsua: @VMaryAbraham Yes, indeed! Plus a rather strong trust factor that needs nurturing on a regular basis #KMers
5:31 pm thegroupery: RT @jaycross: RT @markgould13: I have Posterous and Tumblr accounts.. I use both for re-publishing, not for collecting. #KMers
5:31 pm JohnReaves: I realized that I use email (including drafts) as my basic PKM tool #KMers
5:31 pm thelaurenklein: RT @jaycross: RT @markgould13: I have Posterous and Tumblr accounts.. I use both for re-publishing, not for collecting. #KMers
5:32 pm kcbower: Starting to think about thesis projects. Do you think the popularity of sharing via social media has impacted knowl sharing at work? #KMers
5:32 pm markgould13: @MVMNT_Mike Enterprise tools for #PKM is the way to go, I think. #KMers
5:32 pm 4KM: PKM can be a great intro to KM for sceptics #KMers
5:32 pm mathemagenic: @VMaryAbraham when lots of #pkm traces become available, corporate #KM gets into the same problem: filter and aggregate #KMers
5:32 pm lehawes: @VMaryAbraham Ah, IMHO, PKM must be the foundation of corporate KM. Corp. KM should provide tools & guidance, but practice is indiv. #KMers
5:32 pm rickladd: I don't think they're competing, tho I find (at least at PWR) corp #KM is too focused on explicit; not enough on connections. #KMers
5:32 pm stangarfield: @VMaryAbraham Corporate KM would be wise to build on PKM - help people feel more comfortable posting and tagging, and then aggregate #KMers
5:32 pm elsua: ? @dougcornelius: PKM is about motivation. Organize, publish and filer for personal use. Others benefit as a side product / Amen,Doug #KMers
5:32 pm markgould13: @4KM Many of them are doing it already! #KMers
5:32 pm jeffhester: @VMaryAbraham re:Q2- I see PKM as an important "feed" for enterprise KM. In that sense, it establishes a foundation. #KMers
5:32 pm jackvinson: PKM in enterprise? It's all about enterprise recognizing importance of individual's getting work done. #KMers
5:33 pm RichardHare: Bottom up always seems more attractive to me than mandated, top-down #KMers
5:33 pm elsua: ? @lehawes: @VMaryAbraham Quality of network does matter. Must balance relevance, diversity, & reputation of people chosen to follow #KMers
5:33 pm kcbower: Sorry, folks. Posted an unrelated tweet w/o recalling that the chat is going on now. #KMers #KMers
5:33 pm dougcornelius: @VMaryAbraham KM needs to focus on the individual good not the corporate good. What's In It For Me? WIIFM rules #KMers
5:33 pm mathemagenic: RT @jackvinson: PKM in enterprise? Its all about enterprise recognizing importance of individuals getting work done. #KMers
5:33 pm Ridgehead: They compete for time/attention, which to the bean counters is lost dollars/euros/yen #KMers
5:33 pm markgould13: People have been doing #PKM for centuries. Organisational #KM is the newcomer. #KMers
5:33 pm JohnReaves: Ideally wouldn't corporate KM be a layer of filtering / routing on top of #pkm? #kmers
5:33 pm rickladd: RT @dougcornelius: @VMaryAbraham KM needs to focus on the individual good not the corporate good. Whats In It For Me? WIIFM rules #KMers
5:33 pm RichardHare: Bottom up will look less useful to the top because it's so messy, but individuals will derive the benefits #KMers
5:34 pm VMaryAbraham: @kcbower Not a problem. Please join us. #kmers
5:34 pm pekadad: @VMaryAbraham I think org KM can build on #PKM but it adds in layers of complexity - like governance,etc, that individuals can ignore #KMers
5:34 pm dougcornelius: First generation KM only focused on the corporate good. #KMers
5:34 pm markgould13: @hjarche Absolutely -- and we now know this is how work works. #KMers
5:34 pm jackvinson: A lot of my in-and-out is mediated by email (sorry @elsua ), so that is defacto mechanism for PIM / PKM. #kmers
5:34 pm jaycross: RT @KevinDJones: Isnt corporate KM = sum of #PKM s? NO and that's the problem. It doesn't often grow from the bottom up. #KMers
5:34 pm jeffhester: PKM and KM are complimentary. Enterprise KM takes the sharing beyond your personal network. #KMers
5:34 pm elsua: ? @jackvinson: PKM in enterprise? Its all about enterprise recognizing importance of individuals getting work done / Productivity! #KMers
5:35 pm lehawes: PKM and Enterprise 2.0 have similar goals. Let people do what helps them get work done then leverage ind. contributions for gr8r good #KMers
5:35 pm mathemagenic: @jackvinson motivations for corporate #km go far beyond the sum of individual #pkm motivations (local vs global optimisation) #KMers
5:35 pm jackvinson: One way co's could help is the provide deeper education on USING email systems - beyond button pushes. #KMers
5:35 pm steveellwood: slowly building a culture of people using wikis to record their "learnings"; then searchable/taggable by others. slow build though #KMers
5:35 pm rickladd: IMO corp #KM shld b bout connections. As @euan ptd out 2 me, even when finding the right doc, peeps ask what they should get from it. #KMers
5:35 pm Ridgehead: @markgould13 BUT PKM was once only a phone call or two a day and making a handwritten list. #KMers
5:35 pm markgould13: @jaycross Do you mean no, but it should be? #KMers
5:35 pm hjarche: if corporate KM adds value to distributed PKM then it could be effective - adds to WIIFM #kmers
5:35 pm VMaryAbraham: Perhaps #PKM is growing in importance b/c so few org #KM methods work for individuals. #kmers
5:35 pm jaycross: RT @elsua: ? @jackvinson: PKM in enterprise? Its all about enterprise importance of individuals getting work done / Productivity! #KMers
5:35 pm JohnReaves: Just thinking, is it only filtering or is "routing" also a function in both #pkm and #km ... selecting & referring #kmers
5:35 pm 4KM: There are links here to employee retention and to organizational resilience. #KMers
5:36 pm pekadad: @markgould13 People have been doing #PKM a long time, but there's MUCH more "K" (or "I") to "M" and it's growing faster all the time #KMers
5:36 pm jonhusband: RT @hjarche if corporate KM adds value to distributed PKM then it could be effective - adds to WIIFM #kmers
5:36 pm jeffhester: Ideally PKM and KM work in concert: KM + other resources feed PKM which in turn feeds back into KM #KMers
5:36 pm kcbower: @VMaryAbraham Catching up now; can you please share defn of PKM acronym? Thanks! #KMers
5:36 pm markgould13: @Ridgehead Indeed, plus a personal 'know-how' file. We can replicate that at a greater scale now. #KMers
5:36 pm jaycross: RT @markgould13: @jaycross Do you mean no, but it should be? YES. #KMers
5:36 pm lehawes: RT @jeffhester: PKM and KM are complimentary. Enterprise KM takes the sharing beyond your personal network. (well said!) #KMers
5:36 pm MVMNT_Mike: Is there a place for PKM in Corp KM or do the competing PKM strategies people use reduce the effectiveness of Corp KM? #KMers
5:36 pm rickladd: @kcbower Personal Knowledge Management #KMers
5:37 pm markgould13: @pekadad That's where your network can help filter. #KMers
5:37 pm RichardHare: Corporate KM still sounds like something done to people, rather than simply the ecology of what exists in an organisation #KMers
5:37 pm KevinDJones: @jaycross Agreed, so is the corp trying to do to much to organize and not enough employee enabling of #PKM? #KMers
5:37 pm petertwo: PKM for individual = connectivity and portability (across projects and career) #KMers
5:37 pm dougcornelius: @jackvinson PKM is also about investment. Is this information important enough for me to do something with it to find it later? #KMers
5:37 pm jonhusband: RT @markgould13 People hve been doing #PKM for centuries. Organisational #KM is the newcomer. #KMers ) #KMers
5:42 pm 4KM: Wonder if everyone is defining PKM in similar way? Seems to me strategies for PKM resp are very different than for PInfoM #KMers
5:42 pm markgould13: @VMaryAbraham We can tell stories of successful #PKM efforts. Much more of those than in trad KM. #KMers
5:42 pm bobdejonge: I have not heard anyone mention Google Wave here yet. For me, it's withering on the vine. I can't find a good use for it. #kmers
5:42 pm JohnReaves: @hjarche Training for #pkm skills in the org / enterprise is a great idea #kmers
5:42 pm mathemagenic: @hjarche I guess it's difficult to train for #pkm as one size doesn't fit all and we are far from universal principles #KMers
5:43 pm markgould13: @4KM Surely they are interlinked? And as they are personal, we will all have different strategies. That's OK. #KMers
5:43 pm jonhusband: RT @mathemagenic @jaycross can Evernote archive on-going conversations? gmail can :) #KMers 0 #KMers
5:47 pm pekadad: @VMaryAbraham Is attention-management a critical piece of PKM? How do I know what to to spend my (precious?) mental time on? #KMers
5:47 pm RichardHare: @dougcornelius That's because people have always been rewarded for what they know - this is changing now #KMers
5:47 pm dougcornelius: @markgould13 As @elsua knows, email is private by default and unruly if fully public. #KMers
5:47 pm 4KM: @VMaryAbraham @mathemagenic Wkd recently w an org that was nervous about ind efforts Bcause execs didn't understand them #KMers
5:47 pm elsua: @dougcornelius That's a great thought, Doug! Changing to Public by default is what most of the younger generations have been doing... #KMers
5:47 pm mathemagenic: @VMaryAbraham investing in individuals without worries about "the corporate" would be a big shift. far from it in big orgs, imho #KMers
5:47 pm lehawes: @VMaryAbraham Org doesn't have a choice when individuals are using Web 2.0 tools to do PKM! #KMers
5:48 pm markgould13: @dougcornelius Email wasn't on my list of sensible tools to use! #KMers
5:48 pm VMaryAbraham: @RichardHare So what's the basis of the reward system now, Richard? Can we use that to promote #PKM? #kmers
5:48 pm MVMNT_Mike: @pekadad Exactly. Makes me think of Davenport's "Attention Economy" #KMers
5:48 pm VMaryAbraham: Hey @elsua! RT @markgould13: @dougcornelius Email wasnt on my list of sensible tools to use! #kmers
5:48 pm dougcornelius: @richardhare We need to give tools to help people who know stuff better manage that stuff. Just more public and accessible. #KMers
5:48 pm markgould13: @VMaryAbraham If people can't focus on the important and valuable, we have a bigger problem than #KM. #KMers
5:48 pm mathemagenic: @pekadad right. attention management is the main bottleneck for successful #pkm. may be we should start there #KMers
5:48 pm rickladd: @4KM And God help us if the execs don't understand something! #KMers
5:49 pm hjarche: great conversation here; will need to aggregate, filter & connect afterward :-) #kmers
5:49 pm jaycross: GE fires managers who are caught hoarding valuable information. #KMers
5:49 pm VMaryAbraham: @pekadad Absolutely. That's why the filtering is SO critical. #kmers
5:49 pm jackvinson: @pekadad Attn Mgmt is a piece of the game. Orgs provide how they want people to operate. GTD, Covey, whatever. Then reinforce! #KMers
5:49 pm 4KM: @bobdejonge but KM across any boundaries but discipline can be incredibly difficult in the Academy #KMers
5:49 pm elsua: ? @markgould13: @dougcornelius Email wasnt on my list of sensible tools to use! / me, neither! & for 2 years already! :-P #KMers
5:49 pm lehawes: @bobdejonge Why did PKM morph to PKH? What drove that? #KMers
5:49 pm rickladd: RT @markgould13: @VMaryAbraham If people cant focus on the important and valuable, we have a bigger problem than #KM. #KMers
5:49 pm VMaryAbraham: @hjarche You're right, Harold. Thanks for giving us the aggregate/filter/share system to chew on. #kmers
5:50 pm JohnReaves: RT @VMaryAbraham Is attention-management a critical piece of PKM?< always! way back to Ardipithecus navigating the jungle #KMers
5:50 pm kcbower: @jaycross What an awful approach to #KM... #KMers
5:50 pm dougcornelius: @markgould13 Email is not the problem. Its how we use email that is the problem. Notify not storage. #KMers
5:50 pm jaycross: RT @rickladd: RT @markgould13: @VMaryAbraham If people cant focus on the important and valuable, we have a bigger problem than #KM. #KMers
5:50 pm elsua: ? @hjarche: great conversation here; will need to aggregate, filter & connect afterward :-) / & re-read again & again! ;) #KMers
5:50 pm Ridgehead: @pekadad What the stream of info is showing in our brain patterns and attention span http://bit.ly/85Sy2l #KMers
5:50 pm jackvinson: @bobdejonge To many, PKM done alone looks like "hoarding." What's the context? #KMers
5:50 pm lehawes: @jaycross That's what it will take (GE's model). Incentives and disincentives. #KMers
5:51 pm RichardHare: @VMaryAbraham I see the leaders who work more transparently progressing faster, through the networks they've built #KMers
5:51 pm JohnReaves: @elsua We'll line up the anti-email and pro-email people on both sides of the gym and play dodgeball :) #kmers
5:51 pm VMaryAbraham: @jaycross So should our focus be on ...our focus? Teach priorities and filtering? #kmers
5:51 pm markgould13: @dougcornelius True. #KMers
5:51 pm elsua: Reminder to self: Invite @dougcornelius for a drink or two, next time we meet up at #e2conf :-D #KMers
5:51 pm Quinnovator: PKM needs to become PKS (Personal Knowledge Sharing)? #KMers
5:51 pm rickladd: @JohnReaves Make it paintball! #KMers
5:52 pm bobdejonge: @4KM that is true as well! #kmers
5:52 pm lehawes: @bobdejonge Right. So wrong actions being rewarded. That's why I think the GE policy is sound. Leaders forcing culture change. #KMers
5:52 pm MVMNT_Mike: To me, PKH happens with a change in guard in corporations and new generations. If KM is not taught at school level, we must reteach. #KMers
5:52 pm jonhusband: RT @mathemagenic @VMaryAbraham invsting in indvdls w'out worries abt "the corporate" wld be big shift Far from it in big orgs #KMers great stuff! #KMers
5:54 pm rickladd: @elsua As Russell Ackoff used to say - the best way to learn is to teach. Sharing = giving away = getting back expoentially #KMers
5:54 pm markgould13: @VMaryAbraham People need to be comfortable with the Nike approach -- just do it! #KMers
5:54 pm JohnReaves: @jackvinson Yeah, in the App Store right next to Mobile Mario Brothers (my daughter's latest app) #kmers
5:54 pm Ridgehead: Last thought? Google is busy aggregating everything into one: Wave, Android, Gmail, Chrome. #KMers
5:54 pm jeffhester: RT @elsua: ? @Quinnovator: PKM needs to become PKS (Personal Knowledge Sharing)? AGREED! #KMers
5:54 pm pekadad: @jaycross And part of being having right info is having others who will share that with you (altruism to others has paybacks) #KMers
5:55 pm rickladd: @markgould13 Ah! The hive mind progresses. We are the borg! #KMers
5:55 pm VMaryAbraham: RT @elsua: ? @Quinnovator: PKM needs 2 become PKS (Personal Knowledge Sharing)?/Yes! & it cant start sn enuff!The less M, the better! #kmers
5:55 pm jackvinson: @VMaryAbraham Yes, Wii Bowling with 3.y.o. makes it difficult to follow everything. #kmers
5:55 pm elsua: ? @markgould13: @jaycross: "From subject matter experts to subject matter networks." Mark Oehlert > great stuff! / Yeah, baby! #KMers
5:55 pm markgould13: @Ridgehead And Reader! #KMers
5:55 pm dougcornelius: There are compliance benefits to good KM and PKM. Working in the open means fewer skeletons to get you in trouble. #KMers
5:55 pm bobdejonge: RT @Ridgehead: Last thought? Google is busy aggregating everything into one: Wave, Android, Gmail, Chrome. <-interesting/scary? #kmers
5:55 pm 4KM: Thanks everyone--especially @VMaryAbraham--for thought provoking, useful & sometimes hilarious nuggets #KMers
5:55 pm jaycross: RT @pekadad: (altruism to others has paybacks) Yes, we're all in this together. #KMers
5:55 pm VMaryAbraham: @jackvinson Kudos, Jack. You've done a great job multitasking. #kmers
5:56 pm RichardHare: @dougcornelius Yes - the better and easier to use the tools are, the greater the benefit #KMers
5:56 pm markgould13: @dougcornelius Not all risk managers get this, unfortunately. #KMers
5:56 pm lehawes: @VMaryAbraham One thought: PKM will become even more necessary as business continues to be more networked. Cross-firewall KM. #KMers
5:56 pm JohnReaves: So the #pkm discussion has evolved from filtering to saving to sharing as the process flow, but sharing the #1 priority? #kmers
5:57 pm elsua: @rickladd What a great quote! Loved it & how I have always felt about learning/education/teaching being a teacher myself #KMers
5:57 pm kcbower: @VMaryAbraham Shameless pitch as final thought. :) Trying to ID #KM thesis topics...any thoughts please DM me, I'm fishing for ideas! #KMers
5:57 pm bobdejonge: @jackvinson well, PKM in the context of a team, coming to the table & sharing PK is a key goal, IMHO. #kmers
5:57 pm markgould13: @JohnReaves Not sure sharing is #1, but it must follow close behind personal utility. #KMers
5:57 pm lehawes: @VMaryAbraham Of course! We could chew on that for at least 60 minutes. :>) #KMers
5:58 pm rickladd: @elsua Russ was a great man and teacher. Memorial at UPenn this weekend. Unfortunately, tho made reso, can't attend. #KMers
5:58 pm hjarche: RT @JohnReaves So #pkm discussion has evolved fm filtering to saving to sharing as the process flow, but sharing the #1 priority? #kmers
5:58 pm WestPeter: PKM enables one to work (and learn) in ANY environment - supportive or hostile - then *move on* (having expanded network & resources) #KMers
5:58 pm mik3yv: Love this. RT @jaycross: "From subject matter experts to subject matter networks." Mark Oehlert #KMers
5:58 pm Quinnovator: @KevinDJones think it's trusted filters: who do you follow on twitter? Those who's 'sharing' is reliably valuable #kmers
5:58 pm rickladd: @elsua I too have always believe that giving away what you know makes room for learning more. #KMers
5:58 pm 4KM: @kcbower If you haven't done so, do lots of keyword searches for theses and dissertations (Royal Roads, Pepperdine, Fielding etc.) #KMers
5:58 pm Ridgehead: Risk Managers = Supreme Court, Employees = Congress, KM = President; the checks and balances of enterprise KM #KMers
5:58 pm lehawes: Holy Cow! I'm going to have to get the transcript of this chat and slice/dice it for some personal sensemaking. Thanks all; gr8 chat! #KMers
5:58 pm elsua: To me #pkm is that continuous everlasting learning experience one never gets to master, but keeps trying harder & harder #KMers
5:59 pm markgould13: @WestPeter That is probably what makes it uncomfortable to organisations. #KMers
5:59 pm kcbower: Any good reads on this topic? RT @VMaryAbraham: @lehawes Cross-firewall #KM is a topic in and of itself. #KMers
5:59 pm VMaryAbraham: {moderator} One minute to go -- any suggestions for future KMers Tweet chats? #kmers
5:59 pm JohnReaves: @VMaryAbraham Priority/focus to individual or to org? Strategic priorities? #kmers
5:59 pm jeffhester: PKM is a process. Knowledge flows to me, then through me (as I share with my network and beyond). #KMers
5:59 pm pekadad: @VMaryAbraham Thanks for hosting a great chat! #KMers
5:59 pm kcbower: @4KM Will do. Just getting started...have lots of thoughts but having trouble narrowing down. #KMers
6:00 pm markgould13: @lehawes Doubtless we will see many blog posts doing just that. Excellent #PKM. #KMers
6:00 pm rickladd: Lost the thread for this quote, but needs to be repeated "From subject matter experts to subject matter networks" ABSOTOOTELY! #KMers
6:00 pm elsua: @rickladd And help everyone become better as a result of that knowledge sharing experience :) #KMers
6:00 pm 4KM: @markgould13 @WestPeter Which is really sad given potential links btwn retention and great PKM/KM #KMers
6:00 pm lehawes: @hjarche @JohnReaves I think so. Sharing must be top priority. #KMers
6:00 pm Ridgehead: @VMaryAbraham Thanks for herding the masses. I think we could find a couple of threads from this chat as future topics for #KMers
6:00 pm VMaryAbraham: @JohnReaves Priority/focus to the individual. Hopefully, they are interested in aligning with corp's strategic goals. #kmers
6:01 pm rickladd: @VMaryAbraham Has anything been done to just aggregate tools. Kinda happened at the beginning. I'm serious. #KMers
6:01 pm 4KM: Just want to note we've hardly touched on knowledge generation. #KMers
6:01 pm jackvinson: @VMaryAbraham PKM v. important as a solo/small biz. It's all on me to aggregate + you to filter + all to have need to share. #KMers
6:01 pm rickladd: RT @elsua: @rickladd And help everyone become better as a result of that knowledge sharing experience :)
