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KMers workgroup chat transcript
5:00 PM swanwick: {moderator} Today we are going to chat about a possible working group. Before that intro yourself and ur favorite #KMÂ element #KMers
5:01 PM swanwick: @Ridgehead Thx for the RT earlier. We are excited to have you on the chat. #KMers
5:02 PM swanwick: My favorite facet of #KMÂ is social tagging. #KMers
5:03 PM swanwick: @stangarfield bummed I missed SIKMleaders today. Hard to get a 2hr block out of a day. #KMers
5:03 PM MVMNT_Mike: Mike from Philly. I enjoy watching the social change take hold within an Org applying KM. #KMers
5:03 PM Ridgehead: #KMers Matt Haggerty, Ridgehead Software, and I enjoy the collaboration and sharing aspects of #KM#KMers
5:04 PM swanwick: @MVMNT_Mike "social" as in "culture"? #KMers
5:05 PM MVMNT_Mike: @swanwick Yes, cultural. Good heavens, have I been spending too much time with Social Media?! #KMers
5:06 PM swanwick: FYI: @weknowmore and I have been working to fill the chat schedule. We have a bunch lined up for Feb. Next week is open. #KMers
5:06 PM mneff: Mark Neff from Evans, GA. I like seeing ways to make a difference and then doing it. I like helping others help themselves. #kmers
5:06 PM AndreaMeyer: Joining in now to discuss a #KMers workgroup project http://bit.ly/88iz91 I'm Andrea from Boulder, like idea of virtual collaboration & KM
5:06 PM swanwick: {moderator} lets give everyone until 10 after to get here. Keep tweeting to bring 'em in. :) #KMers
5:07 PM swanwick: @AndreaMeyer @mneff welcome guys. Great to have you back. #KMers
5:08 PM swanwick: Here is the post on the site that sets up this chat:Â http://bit.ly/88iz91Â #KMers
5:08 PM AndreaMeyer: @swanwick thanks, great to be back. Hi Mark, Mike & Matt! @mneff @MVMNT_Mike @Ridgehead#kmers
5:10 PM MVMNT_Mike: From an enjoyment side, it's when someone goes "Aha" & they start to understand KM. From a doing side, it's the collab involved. #KMers
5:10 PM swanwick: {moderator} OK, lets get started. Q1: what does a virtual workgroup mean to you? #KMers
5:10 PM Ridgehead: @AndreaMeyer the idea and the reality ;) #KMers
5:10 PM MVMNT_Mike: @AndreaMeyer Hi Andrea. You've had some great articles recently. Glad you're back to keep the conversations going. #KMers
5:11 PM evelynso: Joining #KMers
5:12 PM Ridgehead: It's a kick to 'see' people use KM systems to help eachother, cut inefficiencies, and generate innovative ideas/solutions #KMers #KMers
5:12 PM evelynso: @swanwick Virtual workgroup, first and foremost, is that members can work efficiently from different geo locations #KMers
5:12 PM AndreaMeyer: @evelynso welcome Evelyn! #kmers
5:12 PM swanwick: @evelynso Evelyn thx for joining. Welcome. We are talking about a virtual workgroup today. #KMers
5:12 PM evelynso: RT @swanwick: Here is the post on the site that sets up this chat:Â http://bit.ly/88iz91Â #KMers
5:13 PM JoeRaimondo: VWkgrp=specific outcome, specific timeframe, specific team (@ outset). Needs tools for coordination, scheduling, content mgmt #kmers
5:13 PM swanwick: @evelynso Gr8 summary. Important aspect is that workgroup can be cross-organization. #KMers
5:14 PM mneff: @swanwick First off, I go with remote. Virtual is not real and we are real even if we are at a distance. Workgroup = task focused. #kmers
5:14 PM stangarfield: @swanwick The call was recorded, so you can listen to Steve Denning's presentation and the conversation when posted to SIKM #KMers
5:14 PM MVMNT_Mike: Virtual workgroup = people dedicated to a cause/issue/problem and a want to be there. #KMers
5:15 PM swanwick: @mneff Heh, good point. We have the same problem when people talk about "virtual events" :) #KMers
5:15 PM swanwick: @stangarfield That's great. Could you post the link to the community for any #KMers that don't know about your group? #KMers
5:15 PM AndreaMeyer: Yes, dedication imp. to momentumRT @MVMNT_Mike: Virtual workgroup = people dedicated to a cause/issue/problem and a want to be there. #kmers
5:16 PM swanwick: {Moderator} officially changing the topic of this chat to "remote workgroup" discussion :) #KMers
5:16 PM stangarfield: Remote workgroups are becoming more common in organizations, so is this more about cross-organizational remote workgroups? #KMers
5:16 PM swanwick: @MVMNT_Mike OK, so to that point, Q2: what #KM cause might we want to take on? #KMers
5:16 PM JoeRaimondo: Increasingly virtual means resources affiliated with different across different organizational boundaries=>governance issues! #kmers
5:17 PM stangarfield: @swanwick http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/sikmleaders/ #KMers
5:17 PM evelynso: @swanwick excited to be here, first time #KMers
5:18 PM swanwick: @stangarfield I was thinking about tribe type workgroups specifically, but no reason we need to limit it to that #KMers
5:18 PM AndreaMeyer: @stangarfield I like your world "cross-organizational" better than "remote" #kmers
5:18 PM AndreaMeyer: RT @swanwick Q2: what #KM cause might we want to take on? #kmers
5:20 PM MVMNT_Mike: Not sure of a cause, but KM is beneficial when it finds bottlenecks & voids where info/knwldge cannot flow further. & then correcting #KMers
5:20 PM Ridgehead: Voluntary vs. Forced workgroups, each certainly impacts the dedication of peeps, thus the potential success. #KMers #KMers
5:20 PM mneff: @evelynso It is just semantics, no worries. The key is that we want to do something that we all feel is important to do. #kmers
5:20 PM swanwick: @stangarfield has been working on connecting independent KM groups to share. Is that a good "cause" for #KMers
5:21 PM stangarfield: @swanwick The grass roots Federal Government KM initiative that Neil Olonoff and others started - how is that working out? #KMers
5:22 PM evelynso: @AndreaMeyer So, are we talking abt a "tribe" initiative that brings together KWers frm across ONE org? or across orgs?or locations? #kmers
5:22 PM AndreaMeyer: @swanwick Interesting, say more? RT @stangarfield has been working on connecting independent KM groups to share a good "cause" for #kmers
5:22 PM mneff: Connection is important. Just getting an understanding of the different groups and what they are working on is a starting point. #kmers
5:22 PM swanwick: @stangarfield I am not connected directly, but I heard from @klowey22 that it has had a lot of ups and downs. #KMers
5:23 PM MVMNT_Mike: Connecting is always a good causeRT @swanwick: @stangarfield has been working on connecting independent KM groups to share. #KMers
5:23 PM evelynso: @mneff Indeed, thanks for the clarification #kmers
5:23 PM mneff: @evelynso Yes, across organizations and locations. Whomever is interested in participating in the task(s) we come up with. #kmers
5:24 PM swanwick: @AndreaMeyer Small pockets of ppl in diff cities collaborating around KM. They don't seem to share many best practices #KMers
5:24 PM stangarfield: @AndreaMeyer I contacted the leaders of the local KM communities in North America of which I am aware about collaborating. #KMers
5:24 PM plantpixie: Hello #KMers. Sorry so late. Will likely lurk on this one.
5:25 PM evelynso: @stangarfield Would love to know more about how you connect KM groups and the objectives/topics/activities #KMers
5:25 PM swanwick: @plantpixie Good to have you Sarah. Lurk or contribute as you like. Thx for saying hi. #KMers
5:25 PM AndreaMeyer: @swanwick ah, sounds like shoemaker's children (KM groups not sharing best practices) #kmers
5:26 PM swanwick: {moderator} any other worthy KM causes/issues/problems to consider working on? #KMers
5:27 PM AndreaMeyer: that sounds interesting! RT @stangarfield:I contacted the leaders of the local KM communities in North America about collaborating. #kmers
5:27 PM AndreaMeyer: @evelynso I was thinking across multiple organizations & locations #kmers
5:27 PM mneff: Processes, practices, guides, checklists, barriers, overcoming them, strategic objectives, embedding KM in operations, ... #kmers
5:28 PM stangarfield: @evelynso See http://stangarfield.googlepages.com/kmcommunities for the list I maintain - if I am missing any, let me know #KMers
5:29 PM AndreaMeyer: good listRT @mneff: Processes, practices, guides, checklists, barriers, overcoming them, strategic objectives, embedding KM in ops #kmers
5:29 PM ithorpe: @swanwick not sure if is what you mean but: KM/SM for public accountability/transparency? #KMers
5:29 PM swanwick: @stangarfield Wld you like for KMers to think about helping out or do you want to run the effort independently for a while? #KMers
5:29 PM mneff: RT @stangarfield See http://stangarfield.googlepages.com/kmcommunities for the list I maintain - if I am missing any, let me know #kmers
5:30 PM swanwick: @mneff Douglas Weidner has been thinking about putting together KM classifications/taxonomy for a while. #KMers
5:30 PM stangarfield: @swanwick I am happy to have help - not trying to run it, just acting as the catalyst to get it going #KMers
5:30 PM AndreaMeyer: List of #KM Communities by @stangarfield http://ow.ly/YfBZ #kmers
5:31 PM swanwick: @ithorpe Could you say more about what you mean? #KMers
5:31 PM evelynso: @stangarfield Lovely, will check it out, thanks #KMers
5:31 PM mneff: @swanwick That would be useful but it needs to be flexible. Many of us have very different ideas about what KM includes which is ok. #kmers
5:32 PM ithorpe: @swanwick as a cause: what are the ways KM/SM can contribute 2 making government, business etc. more transparent/accountable 2 public #KMers
5:32 PM JoeRaimondo: Picking up earlier topic-issue of governance/info ownership-is key to effective virtual/x-organizational work. Not always considered. #kmers
5:33 PM swanwick: @mneff Heh. Gets straight to heart of limitations of a taxonomy. We might be able to dicker about that longer than def of KM #KMers
5:33 PM Ridgehead: Yes, using the crowd to check/balance RT @ithorpe: @swanwick KM/SM for public accountability/transparency? #KMers
5:34 PM swanwick: @ithorpe That is certainly meaty. Do you think that ppl working in spare time could make a decent impact? #KMers
5:35 PM mneff: @swanwick I like the topic of transparency and the government. What could we do to influence that? What would we share with others? #kmers
5:36 PM ithorpe: @swanwick not sure - but I think it is the way SM is headed anyway and would be a good interdisciplinary link #KMers
5:37 PM evelynso: Have to dash, sick kid just woke up from his nap. Will catch up later, great chatting with all!! thanks a lot. #kmers
5:37 PM swanwick: @ithorpe @mneff excellent. Sounds like we have two solid ideas. Any others? #KMers
5:38 PM mneff: Also, who is our customer? Is it us? Or are we targeting deliverables that will help others? Who? What do they need? #kmers
5:38 PM swanwick: @evelynso Great to have you here. Watch http://KMers.org for follow-on. #KMers
5:38 PM ithorpe: @mneff @swanwick disclosure/sharing policies, showing benefits of openness and how 2 do it well #KMers
5:39 PM swanwick: @mneff Each idea might have a different customer. Would be one of the first steps for workgroup to work out customer/scope #KMers
5:39 PM ithorpe: @swanwick by the way I think transparency and participation applies to private and public sectors and can benefit both #KMers
5:40 PM JohnReaves: Sorry, late (very!) arrival #KMers
5:40 PM stangarfield: @swanwick Steve Denning on SIKM call said it's up to us to help spread the word and get radical management adopted - another idea #KMers
5:40 PM swanwick: @ithorpe gr8 ideas. "Benefits of openness" sounds very interesting. #KMers
5:41 PM mneff: @ithorpe Maybe some best practices around IP and getting people to share while still protecting their rights if they are so inclined. #kmers
5:41 PM swanwick: @stangarfield Nice one -> "Paths to Radical Management" Ideas are flowing now! #KMers
5:41 PM klowey22: hi kmers! #kmers
5:41 PM AndreaMeyer: @swanwick agree RT@swanwick @ithorpe gr8 ideas. "Benefits of openness" sounds very interesting. #kmers
5:41 PM ithorpe: @AndreaMeyer list of KM netowrks from David Gurteen don't know is has extra ones beyond list from @stangarfield http://bit.ly/8WpeuC #KMers
5:41 PM mneff: Also need to know what people are doing to stop records and information management processes from killing KM objectives. #kmers
5:42 PM JohnReaves: I'm interested in "IP 2.0" ... using IP flexibly to accelerate innovation. #KMers
5:42 PM swanwick: @klowey22Â Hi, John great to see you. #KMers
5:42 PM ithorpe: @mneff yes IP issues would be great - fighting this fight in-house right now #KMers
5:43 PM klowey22: @swanwick thanks Rob, great to see you and the group as well! catching up w the conversation right now... #kmers
5:43 PM Ridgehead: Please expand, sounds interestng RT @JohnReaves: I'm interested in "IP 2.0" ... using IP flexibly to accelerate innovation. #KMers
5:43 PM swanwick: {moderator} OK, send more ideas to me @ or DM at any time. let's move on to Q3. #KMers
5:44 PM mneff: I also like looking at the intersections. KM and SM, KM and Innovation, KM and learning, ... #kmers
5:44 PM JohnReaves: IP & KM very interesting conjunction! #KMers
5:44 PM swanwick: {moderator} Q3: how might this loosely formed, but motivated group combine to serve as a workgroup? #KMers
5:44 PM AndreaMeyer: @JaneBozarth of course, all are welcome! #kmers
5:44 PM mneff: @JaneBozarth Of course you can. Open forum for anyone interested. #kmers
5:45 PM JaneBozarth: Ditto -- big thing for me RT @mneff I like looking at the intersections. KM and SM, KM and Innovation, KM and learning, ... #kmers
5:45 PM klowey22: RT @mneff: I also like looking at the intersections. KM and SM, KM and Innovation, KM and learning > and km / collaboration #kmers
5:45 PM swanwick: @JaneBozarth Sure, Jane....more the merrier. Jump in wherever you like. #KMers
5:46 PM AndreaMeyer: @swanwick each take tasks we're most interested in? #kmers
5:46 PM JohnReaves: Use Creative Commons, copyright, provisional patent, etc. in iterative, flexible, open way - avoid "trade secret" modality #KMers
5:47 PM JohnReaves: @mneff Great idea, intersections are best place for innovation! #KMers
5:48 PM swanwick: We could take the KMers chat time one time once a month to connect about progress or we could use the hashtag at a different time. #KMers
5:48 PM mneff: I guess the first thing is to come up with a list of tasks we want to perform and then see if people want to sign up. #kmers
5:49 PM mneff: Each workgroup can then progress at their desired rate with periodic updates. Goal would be to let them be as open as possible. #kmers
5:49 PM AndreaMeyer: using #kmers tag means new peeps can join inRT @swanwick: We could take the KMers chat time one time once a month to connect about progress
5:50 PM mneff: By providing online status reports, any new person may be able to jump in and contribute while a core team shepherds them. #kmers
5:50 PM MVMNT_Mike: And since many of us are interested in intersections, finding tasks that do intersect at some point. #KMers
5:50 PM swanwick: @mneff Well, first we should pick one of the gr8 topics that came up on this chat. :) I will run a poll for a few weeks. #KMers
5:50 PM Ridgehead: we can engage and/or start other hashtag groups to generate community involvement #KMers
5:51 PM swanwick: {moderator} is a wiki a pretty obvious content management mechanism for a remote workgroup? #KMers
5:51 PM mneff: Maybe our first deliverables could be position papers or points of view outlining our assumptions and principles. Leverage quickly. #kmers
5:52 PM AndreaMeyer: #KMers @mneff Yes: list of tasks; signup as interested; groups set timetable, share updates, stay open
5:54 PM mneff: @swanwick Good starting point. It will help if we get list of people interested in participating and what they are working on or want #kmers
5:55 PM MVMNT_Mike: @swanwick A directory will be key to keep track of those participating and experts found for each area. #KMers
5:55 PM mneff: Our overall goal for this activity is to improve our ability to collaborate with each other and to provide ... #kmers
5:56 PM JohnReaves: @swanwick is a wiki a pretty obvious content management mechanism < yes, I think it works (#ecosysexample) #kmers
5:57 PM AndreaMeyer: @swanwick looking forward to your poll of topics! Yes, wiki is good for content management for our workgroups #kmers
5:57 PM swanwick: Great ideas all. One more key question. If you believed in the issue, how many hrs/month do you think u might donate? #KMers
5:58 PM swanwick: {moderator} we are coming near the hour. If you have anything that you want to promo, go for it now. #KMers
5:59 PM mneff: @swanwick Always the tough question, it depends on the topic. If real to me, then as much time as I could. If not, then none. #kmers
6:00 PM AndreaMeyer: @swanwick time might vary from month to month but could agree to a minimum or take turns on minimum to keep progress going #kmers
6:00 PM swanwick: I would like to promo http://eventcamp.org Feb 6 in NYC. Unconf for those interested in the future of events. #KMers
6:02 PM swanwick: {moderator} thx everyone for attending this week. We have a full schedule for Feb chats. Need moderator for next week. #KMers
6:02 PM MVMNT_Mike: Would like to promo @TrencCamp . The future of the future. We already have some KM/Collab participants. http://trendcamp.org #KMers
6:04 PM mneff: @swanwick Thanks for moderating. An interesting engagement opportunity to help us move forward as a group. #kmers
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